Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-03?
"Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com> Wed, 14 September 2016 15:27 UTC
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From: "Pascal Thubert (pthubert)" <pthubert@cisco.com>
To: Pat Thaler <pat.thaler@broadcom.com>, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
Thread-Topic: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-03?
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Subject: Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-03?
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The Cisco IPR no longer applies, Pat; I took action with our lawyers to get the post removed and associated with the new separate draft: https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-thubert-bier-replication-elimination-00.txt IPR vs. informational is a difficult match, apparently. Take care, Pascal From: detnet [mailto:detnet-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Pat Thaler Sent: mercredi 14 septembre 2016 16:11 To: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Cc: Jouni Korhonen <jouni.korhonen@broadcom.com>; detnet@ietf.org; BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A <db3546@att.com> Subject: Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-03? There was a question from S.V.R Anand - it isn't clear to me whether that would create a change in the draft. There were commentsalong with a support from Oliver Marce. Both those emails were August 22. Also, this from Loa Anderson: While I support adopting he draft that will result from removing the BIER-TE discussion my reading of this thread is that the RAND IPR disclosure that Adrian pointed out is still in effect. Since we all seem to be very careful (and rightly so) around IPR discussions, my take is that we not have consensus to adopt the document with the IPR disclosure still in effect. My understanding of the LOA was that it was submitted due to the BIER-TE content. It would be good if Pascal would clarify that it no longer applies. Regards, Pat On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net<mailto:lberger@labn.net>> wrote: Thanks Jouni -- Are there any other issues raised during the adoption poll that have not yet been addressed? Lou On 9/14/2016 7:15 AM, Jouni Korhonen wrote: > Folks, > > I just submitted dp-alt-04 with BIER-TE carved out. I also implemented > grammar-only corrections proposed by Ethan. > > - Jouni >
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Dan Romascanu
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Balázs Varga A
- [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-03? Pat Thaler
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Norman Finn (nfinn)
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Prof. Diego Dujovne
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… zhayiyong
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… S.V.R.Anand
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Olivier Marce
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Pat Thaler
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Pat Thaler
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Gregory Mirsky
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Zhuangyan (Yan)
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Subir Das
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Alon Regev
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… nfinn
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Patrick Wetterwald (pwetterw)
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Kieran Tyrrell
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Grossman, Ethan A.
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Lou Berger
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… János Farkas
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Adrian Farrel
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Lou Berger
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Pat Thaler
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Pat Thaler
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Loa Andersson
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Lou Berger
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Pat Thaler
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Pat Thaler
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Jouni Korhonen
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Pat Thaler
- Re: [Detnet] adoption of draft-dt-detnet-dp-alt-0… Jouni Korhonen