Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Categories
Henning Schulzrinne <hgs@cs.columbia.edu> Sun, 12 July 2009 20:17 UTC
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I'm also not convinced that categories are all that useful, at least among different kinds emergencies. It seems a bit far-fetched to say "I want to know if there's a tsunami, but not a tornado or chemical leak, affecting my area". There are likely to be non-emergency categories, such as school closings or traffic alerts, that may have more limited appeal, but may use the same basic infrastructure. Henning On Jul 12, 2009, at 3:23 PM, Art Botterell wrote: > I'm wondering whether it might be simpler, at least in the near > term, to let consumers subscribe to selected sources rather than to > topical categories. That pushes the question of message > authoritativeness / jurisdiction /credibility out of the CAP > infrastructure and into the larger field of inter-agency and inter- > jurisidictional coordination, where it more properly belongs. > > Taxonomies tend to be culturally loaded and can never be guaranteed > to be complete. Thus there's a real risk of "categorical > disconnects" leading to missed alerts either because of differing > interpretations of categories or of unforeseen events that don't fit > our preconceived categories. Maybe someday we'll have a reliable > taxonomy of the unexpected, but right now a degree of deliberate > imprecision seems to be the best we can do... and I sometimes wonder > whether even that is more helpful than it is risky. > > - Art > > > On Jul 12, 2009, at 7/12/09 11:58 AM, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > >> I should provide a bit more feedback about the background to my >> question. >> >> If you only set the value in the category field for the purpose of >> human >> consumption then there is not really an interoperability issue. >> >> Now, with the work on http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-rosen-sipping-cap-03 >> we wanted to define an event package for SIP that allows you to >> "subscribe" >> to certain type of events: you might indicate something like >> location and >> the type of events you are interested in. >> >> Now, the semantic of the category field suddently matters. With the >> individuals-to-citizen emergency services we tried to come up with a >> description of the emergency services categories, see RFC 5031. >> >> Ciao >> Hannes > > _______________________________________________ > earlywarning mailing list > earlywarning@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/earlywarning >
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Tony Rutkowski
- [earlywarning] Definition of Warning Categories Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Art Botterell
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Art Botterell
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… David Aylward (Comcare)
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Art Botterell
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… David Aylward (Comcare)
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… David Aylward (Comcare)
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… James M. Polk
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… David Aylward (Comcare)
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… creed
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Art Botterell
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Art Botterell
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Timothy Grapes
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Rex Buddenberg
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Rex Buddenberg
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Tony Rutkowski
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Brian Rosen
- Re: [earlywarning] [CAP] Definition of Warning Ca… Timothy Grapes