Re: [Eligibility-discuss] NomCom selection Fwd: Notification for draft-eastlake-rfc3797bis-00.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 22 May 2023 19:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Eligibility-discuss] NomCom selection Fwd: Notification for draft-eastlake-rfc3797bis-00.txt
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I concur with Robert, so I think the next stop is gendispatch.

Regards
    Brian

On 23-May-23 01:03, Robert Sparks wrote:
> I think this needs a working group, and I don't the Elegy is really the
> right place to stuff it.
> 
> The work, if taken on, isn't focusing on eligibility - it's reach is
> much broader, and I think it would deserve something shaped more like a
> BoF leading to a purposed charter.
> 
> (My opinion is that consensus around the draft's goals will be quite
> hard to build, and a bof-like chartering effort might help further
> identify what's obtainable.)
> 
> RjS
> 
> p.s. I think it's fine to close Elegy, but keep reopening it in the
> future in mind as you settle its state.
> 
> On 5/22/23 5:38 AM, Lars Eggert wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> with the publication of RFC9389, I am ready to close the ELEGY WG. I am unaware of any suggestions for future work, with one wrinkle:
>>
>> There is one wrinkle, and that is Don's I-D below. *If* there is any interest in the community that that should be talken forward at this time to become an RFC, a (rechartered) ELEGY WG seems like the correct home. (It could of course also go forward as AD-sponsored.)
>>
>> (I'll note that Don hasn't indicated whether he would like to see this progressed towards an RFC, but I am assuming that he would.)
>>
>> The chairs and I would appreciate some feedback on what to do here.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lars
>>
>>> On 24. Aug 2022, at 03:56, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have posted an rfc3797bis draft. It has lots of updates but
>>> currently has the same basic algorithm. I plan to add material to it
>>> to address the need some people see to re-randomize when selection has
>>> to be extended beyond the initial selection provided in RFC 3797.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Donald
>>> ===============================
>>> Donald E. Eastlake 3rd   +1-508-333-2270 (cell)
>>> 2386 Panoramic Circle, Apopka, FL 32703 USA
>>> d3e3e3@gmail.com
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: <internet-drafts@ietf.org>
>>> Date: Tue, Aug 23, 2022 at 8:13 PM
>>> Subject: New Version Notification for draft-eastlake-rfc3797bis-00.txt
>>> To: Donald E. Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> A new version of I-D, draft-eastlake-rfc3797bis-00.txt
>>> has been successfully submitted by Donald E. Eastlake and posted to the
>>> IETF repository.
>>>
>>> Name:           draft-eastlake-rfc3797bis
>>> Revision:       00
>>> Title:          Publicly Verifiable Nominations Committee (NomCom)
>>> Random Selection
>>> Document date:  2022-08-23
>>> Group:          Individual Submission
>>> Pages:          26
>>> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-eastlake-rfc3797bis-00.txt
>>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eastlake-rfc3797bis/
>>> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-eastlake-rfc3797bis
>>>
>>>
>>> Abstract:
>>> This document describes a method for making random selections in such
>>> a way that the unbiased nature of the choice is publicly verifiable.
>>> For example, the selection of the voting members of the IETF
>>> Nominations Committee (NomCom) from the pool of eligible volunteers.
>>> Similar techniques would be applicable to other cases.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The IETF Secretariat
>