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Re: [Eligibility-discuss] On 3797 alternatives

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Wed, 31 May 2023 15:51 UTC

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Martin Thomson <mt@lowentropy.net>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
CC: Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@gmail.com>, "eligibility-discuss@ietf.org" <eligibility-discuss@ietf.org>
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Date: Wed, 31 May 2023 15:50:38 +0000
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> That's right. I'm also assuming that others have access to that information (Robert, the previous chair, people writing software for the datatracker, etc...) I'm not implying anything about the character of those individuals, only saying that a stronger system wouldn't rely so much on us trusting those people ... or chance.

Can you tell me what attacks you see as possible?  I assume that Akamai (for example) could tell its employees to not volunteer which is effective immediately. If it wanted to get many volunteers, they would either be already qualified, or there is a more-than-one-year timeline. This was discussed in London, and the consensus was that watching the growth of eligible volunteers was good enough.

What am I missing?

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