[eman] YANG model for battery MIB

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Fri, 08 July 2016 12:24 UTC

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Subject: [eman] YANG model for battery MIB
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Hello,

We have submitted a new draft describing a YANG model for the battery MIB:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-petrescu-battery-mib-yang-00

How should we pursue this draft?

Alex

Le 06/07/2016 à 13:52, Alexandre Petrescu a écrit :
>
>
> Le 30/06/2016 à 06:49, joel jaeggli a écrit :
>> On 6/28/16 8:10 AM, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
>>> Sure. But your two statements (in the first paragraph) use each of
>>> the conditional 'may'. What is the reason to use YANG on the devices?
>>> The SDN paradigm does not AFAIK make assumptions about using a
>>> specific protocol or DML at the device management level. YANG comes
>>> at a certain cost (bits on wire, memory). Maybe this is affordable,
>>> or maybe YANG is needed for other reasons, but this needs to be shown
>>> explicitely.
>>
>> Signaling presumes in some utility is derived from coordination.
>>
>> If I have a ten year primary battery or I'm a space probe headed to
>> alpha centuri I'm not going to devote a lot of electrons to expressing
>> my power consumption or battery condition.
>>
>> More active or particularly coordinated groups of devices such as the
>> elements of a BST or a datacenter might well have information to share.
>
> Whereas I can expect a BST (Base Station?) to be operated on chemical
> battery in emergency areas, it would be hard to imagine an entire
> datacenter on battery - wouldn't it rather be on combustion-engine
> electricity generators?
>
> For the BST case: I will write separately.
>
> For the datacenter: I think there would be a need for an entirely
> different MIB, different than a battery-MIB.
>
> Alex
>
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Alexandre Petrescu
>>>> [mailto:alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2016
>>>> 5:55 PM To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan); Rolf Winter; Nadeau Thomas Cc:
>>>> eman@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eman] energy-specific efforts at IETF?
>>>>
>>>> The SDN paradigm may be applied not just to switches but to
>>>> smartphones. Further, a tool like CoMI (CoAP Management Interface)
>>>> may make use of YANG models on IoT devices which are typically
>>>> constrained on battery.
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday I read about an NB-IoT LPWA device from u-blox which runs
>>>> on a battery for 10 years.
>>>>
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> Le 02/06/2016 à 11:20, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) a écrit :
>>>>> No, RFC 7577 defines an SMIv2 MIB.
>>>>>
>>>>> Before engaging in a discussion about 'let us do EMAN data
>>>>> modelling in YANG' I would like to see a use case - i.e. an
>>>>> example of an energy monitoring system that uses YANG for
>>>>> reporting energy information.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: eman
>>>>>> [mailto:eman-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexandre Petrescu
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 11:22 AM To: Rolf Winter; Nadeau
>>>>>> Thomas Cc: eman@ietf.org Subject: Re: [eman] energy-specific
>>>>>> efforts at IETF?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 02/06/2016 à 10:18, Rolf Winter a écrit :
>>>>>>> Is there anything that the EMAN work is not addressing or
>>>>>>> that requires new protocol work?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For my clarification - is the battery monitoring MIB RFC7577
>>>>>> using YANG?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 8:00 PM, Nadeau Thomas
>>>>>> <tnadeau@lucidvision.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not that I know of in the form of an official working
>>>>>>>> group. EMAN was
>>>>>> shut down something like a year ago.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --Tom
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 1, 2016:8:34 AM, at 8:34 AM, Alexandre Petrescu
>>>>>> <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is there any other effort focusing on energy consumption
>>>>>>>>> happening at
>>>>>> IETF currently?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am interested in aspects related to energy consumption
>>>>>>>>> of IP networks
>>>>>> used to deliver video streams.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yours,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Alex Petrescu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 09/06/2015 à 05:01, Mouli Chandramouli (moulchan) a
>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks to all the WG chairs for shepherding the IETF
>>>>>>>>>> drafts and taking them to a conclusion. I may not be
>>>>>>>>>> able to travel to Prague.  So, enjoy.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers Mouli
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From: Nadeau Thomas <tnadeau@lucidvision.com
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:tnadeau@lucidvision.com>> Date: Saturday, 6
>>>>>>>>>> June 2015 2:22 AM To: "Benoit Claise (bclaise)"
>>>>>>>>>> <bclaise@cisco.com <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>> Cc: eman
>>>>>>>>>> mailing list <eman@ietf.org <mailto:eman@ietf.org>>,
>>>>>>>>>> "eman-chairs@tools.ietf.org
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:eman-chairs@tools.ietf.org>"
>>>>>>>>>> <eman-chairs@tools.ietf.org
>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:eman-chairs@tools.ietf.org>> Subject: Re:
>>>>>>>>>> [eman] Status of the EMAN W.G. effort.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Beers are on you! 8)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 5, 2015:4:46 PM, at 4:46 PM, Benoit Claise
>>>>>>>>>>> <bclaise@cisco.com <mailto:bclaise@cisco.com>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, thanks to the contributors, document editors, WG
>>>>>>>>>>> chairs, previous ADs :-), basically the entire EMAN
>>>>>>>>>>> community. Celebration in Prague? Fine with me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, Benoit
>>>>>>>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Now that we've crossed the milstone of having
>>>>>>>>>>>> draft-ietf-eman-applicability-statement-11 move to
>>>>>>>>>>>> the RFC editor
>>>>>> queue,
>>>>>>>>>>>> I think we can pause and reflect on the effort that
>>>>>>>>>>>> has completed.
>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>>>> took a while to get here and the consensus that we
>>>>>>>>>>>> built was hard
>>>>>> won
>>>>>>>>>>>> but I hope durable.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's my intention to close down the working group,
>>>>>>>>>>>> maintaining the mailing list for a time. The
>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list archive as with other IETF mailing
>>>>>>>>>>>> lists will be preserved. in the immediate sense if
>>>>>>>>>>>> there is
>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>>> around the edges of this space we have the opsawg
>>>>>>>>>>>> working
>>>> group
>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> support such activities.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you again for your diligent efforts,
>>>>>>>>>>>> especially the present and former chairs who
>>>>>>>>>>>> shepherded this work to the point that it is at
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards Joel
>>>>>
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