Re: [gaia] Comments on: draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments

Matthew Ford <ford@isoc.org> Tue, 12 April 2016 09:39 UTC

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Subject: Re: [gaia] Comments on: draft-irtf-gaia-alternative-network-deployments
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Hi Jose,

> On 12 Apr 2016, at 09:06, Jose Saldana <jsaldana@unizar.es> wrote:
> 
> This is my two-step proposal:
> 
> 1) We (the authors, and myself as the editor) will build a new version (05)
> of the document including the suggestions of the last week, but without
> substantially modifying it. I think we can do it this week (we have already
> included a number of small improvements). We may ask for feedback from the
> people who have suggested some changes.
> 

We have had a lot of good input on the list recently which is great! It’s unfortunate that it arrived when it did, but I don’t think it should be set aside because of procedural concerns.

So, yes, please work on a new rev that addresses recent input and comments as you are willing and when we have that in hand the chairs can decide how to proceed. Working with those people suggesting changes sounds like a very sensible approach.

Mat