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Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-01.txt

Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> Tue, 23 November 2021 02:21 UTC

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From: Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2021 18:21:03 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] I-D Action: draft-halpern-gendispatch-antitrust-01.txt
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On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 5:30 PM Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 23-Nov-21 05:44, Joel M. Halpern wrote:
> > While there are some participants for whom competition law is not an
> > issue, there are many participants for whom it is an issue.
>
>
> I have always felt it was relevant to me, whether or not I worked for
> a large IT company. How can it *not* be relevant to anyone who is
> actively participating in discussions with multiple companies?
>

Right. There have always been unstructured discussions about these issues,
and IETF participants are pretty sharp about them (as Brad wrote).

In fact, crossing the line on this front is a quick way to make sure
everyone ignores you.

I think a brief document to add to the Note Well is fine. I doubt the
current approach would be easy to explain to a regulator as a "program",
even though it is effective.

thanks,
Rob

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