Re: [hrpc] new title for draft-tenoever-hrpc-political

Tony Rutkowski <rutkowski.tony@gmail.com> Sat, 18 August 2018 16:39 UTC

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From: Tony Rutkowski <rutkowski.tony@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [hrpc] new title for draft-tenoever-hrpc-political
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Additionally...

Referencing
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20180804_internet_as_non_kinetic_wmd/

The draft fails to deal with the considerable body of information that
portray the global public internet based on IETF protocols as inherently
antithetical to human rights along the lines raised by
draft-elris-hrpc-righttolife-00.

For example, do FSB and GRU agents have a "human right of expression"
without surveillance to use IETF protocols - especially those for
encryption - to bring about regime change in another country?  It is a
rather visible use case today.  Do the continuation of unfettered
end-to-end networking protocol assumptions advance their "expression?" 
Seems like a significant political choice, no?

Or does a national leader have a human right to use those other
protocols to spread racism and xenophobia as a global norm?  The EU
began last year to address the matter and reached an agreement with
social media providers to implement obligations under the several  human
rights instruments treating the propagation of racism and xenophobia.

There seems to be a certain balance lacking in the use cases in the
current internet draft.

--tony