Re: [hrpc] new title for draft-tenoever-hrpc-political

[Mark Perkins <[e-mail]>]

 'Notes on networking standards and politics'
get my vote!
Mark Perkins

    On Friday, July 20, 2018, 10:10:27 AM GMT+11, Niels ten Oever <[e-mail]> wrote:  
 
 Off-list discussion with Stephen resulted in a new option:

'Notes on networking standards and politics'

That gives us a few options:

a) Notes on networking standards and politics
b) On Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
c) Notes on Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
d) ?

Curious to hear what the RG thinks sounds best, new suggestions ofc also
welcome.

Best,

Niels

On 07/20/2018 12:43 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> 
> 
> On 07/20/2018 12:38 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>
>> Hiya,
>>
>> On 19/07/18 23:33, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Thank you all very much for the spirited discussion at the session. To
>>> resolve the issue with draft political and remove the last issue mention
>>> blocking adoption I would like to propose to rename the draft:
>>>
>>> On Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
>>
>> Meh:-)
>>
>> How'd something more like "Some background on networking standards
>> and politics" work? That seems to describe the content of the draft
>> better to me, (modulo not having carefully read the latest rev, as I
>> admitted at the mic, so don't take me too seriously.)
>>
>> My reason for suggesting that is to try end up with something that
>> would be less surprising for an IETF (or IEEE 802 or W3C...) reader.
>>
> 
> Exactly that audience is saying time and again that 'technology is
> neutral' / 'protocols are neutral' / 'standards are neutral'. That is I
> would like to address that in the title (and the draft).
> 
> Following work can then address how we could come up with approaches to
> address that.
> 
> 
>> Cheers,
>> S.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Would that work for you all? I also added a few mentions of value
>>> neutrality (and the lack thereof) for consistency in the abstract,
>>> introduction, conclusion and the way forward.
>>>
>>> Changes can be seen here:
>>> https://github.com/nllz/IRTF-HRPC/commit/03826cd73959e692bb1f7aa305f9fbdee325dbd2#diff-fb9d617868a367dd946ef225cc5e6de1
>>>
>>> Happy to discuss.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Niels
>>>
> 

-- 
Niels ten Oever
Researcher and PhD Candidate
Datactive Research Group
University of Amsterdam

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