Re: [hrpc] new title for draft-tenoever-hrpc-political

Niels ten Oever <mail@nielstenoever.net> Thu, 19 July 2018 22:43 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hrpc] new title for draft-tenoever-hrpc-political
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On 07/20/2018 12:38 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> On 19/07/18 23:33, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Thank you all very much for the spirited discussion at the session. To
>> resolve the issue with draft political and remove the last issue mention
>> blocking adoption I would like to propose to rename the draft:
>>
>> On Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
> 
> Meh:-)
> 
> How'd something more like "Some background on networking standards
> and politics" work? That seems to describe the content of the draft
> better to me, (modulo not having carefully read the latest rev, as I
> admitted at the mic, so don't take me too seriously.)
> 
> My reason for suggesting that is to try end up with something that
> would be less surprising for an IETF (or IEEE 802 or W3C...) reader.
> 

Exactly that audience is saying time and again that 'technology is
neutral' / 'protocols are neutral' / 'standards are neutral'. That is I
would like to address that in the title (and the draft).

Following work can then address how we could come up with approaches to
address that.


> Cheers,
> S.
> 
> 
>>
>> Would that work for you all? I also added a few mentions of value
>> neutrality (and the lack thereof) for consistency in the abstract,
>> introduction, conclusion and the way forward.
>>
>> Changes can be seen here:
>> https://github.com/nllz/IRTF-HRPC/commit/03826cd73959e692bb1f7aa305f9fbdee325dbd2#diff-fb9d617868a367dd946ef225cc5e6de1
>>
>> Happy to discuss.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Niels
>>

-- 
Niels ten Oever
Researcher and PhD Candidate
Datactive Research Group
University of Amsterdam

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