Re: [hrpc] new title for draft-tenoever-hrpc-political

[Niels ten Oever <[e-mail]>]

Hi chairs,

Small reminder for this e-mail.

Best,

Niels

On 07/27/2018 11:09 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> Hi chairs,
> 
> With unanimous support for 'Notes on networking standards and politics'
> on the list as a title for draft-political, it seems like the final
> hurdle for RG adoption of the document (as discussed in Montreal) has
> been passed, right?
> 
> Can I publish it as RG document with the new title?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Niels
> 
> On 07/20/2018 08:00 PM, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
>> On 2018-07-20 10:33, Corinne Cath wrote:
>>> I like a.) Notes on networking standards and politics part of this
>>> whole process imho is to get people to read the doc to begin with,
>>> which seems most likely with a clear and recognizable title. my 2
>>> cents, corinne 
>>>
>> yeah, a)
>>
>> +1
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:19 AM, Mark Perkins
>>> <marknoumea=[e-mail]
>>> <mailto:marknoumea=[e-mail]..org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     'Notes on networking standards and politics'
>>>
>>>     get my vote!
>>>
>>>     Mark Perkins
>>>
>>>     On Friday, July 20, 2018, 10:10:27 AM GMT+11, Niels ten Oever
>>>     <[e-mail] <mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>     Off-list discussion with Stephen resulted in a new option:
>>>
>>>     'Notes on networking standards and politics'
>>>
>>>     That gives us a few options:
>>>
>>>     a) Notes on networking standards and politics
>>>     b) On Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
>>>     c) Notes on Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
>>>     d) ?
>>>
>>>     Curious to hear what the RG thinks sounds best, new suggestions
>>>     ofc also
>>>     welcome.
>>>
>>>     Best,
>>>
>>>     Niels
>>>
>>>     On 07/20/2018 12:43 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     > On 07/20/2018 12:38 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Hiya,
>>>     >>
>>>     >> On 19/07/18 23:33, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>>>     >>> Hi all,
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> Thank you all very much for the spirited discussion at the
>>>     session. To
>>>     >>> resolve the issue with draft political and remove the last
>>>     issue mention
>>>     >>> blocking adoption I would like to propose to rename the draft:
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> On Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
>>>     >>
>>>     >> Meh:-)
>>>     >>
>>>     >> How'd something more like "Some background on networking standards
>>>     >> and politics" work? That seems to describe the content of the draft
>>>     >> better to me, (modulo not having carefully read the latest rev,
>>>     as I
>>>     >> admitted at the mic, so don't take me too seriously.)
>>>     >>
>>>     >> My reason for suggesting that is to try end up with something that
>>>     >> would be less surprising for an IETF (or IEEE 802 or W3C...)
>>>     reader.
>>>     >>
>>>     >
>>>     > Exactly that audience is saying time and again that 'technology is
>>>     > neutral' / 'protocols are neutral' / 'standards are neutral'.
>>>     That is I
>>>     > would like to address that in the title (and the draft).
>>>     >
>>>     > Following work can then address how we could come up with
>>>     approaches to
>>>     > address that.
>>>     >
>>>     >
>>>     >> Cheers,
>>>     >> S.
>>>     >>
>>>     >>
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> Would that work for you all? I also added a few mentions of value
>>>     >>> neutrality (and the lack thereof) for consistency in the abstract,
>>>     >>> introduction, conclusion and the way forward.
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> Changes can be seen here:
>>>     >>>
>>>     https://github.com/nllz/IRTF-HRPC/commit/03826cd73959e692bb1f7aa305f9fbdee325dbd2#diff-fb9d617868a367dd946ef225cc5e6de1
>>>     <https://github.com/nllz/IRTF-HRPC/commit/03826cd73959e692bb1f7aa305f9fbdee325dbd2#diff-fb9d617868a367dd946ef225cc5e6de1>
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> Happy to discuss.
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> Best,
>>>     >>>
>>>     >>> Niels
>>>     >>>
>>>     >
>>>
>>>     -- 
>>>     Niels ten Oever
>>>     Researcher and PhD Candidate
>>>     Datactive Research Group
>>>     University of Amsterdam
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Datactive Research Group
University of Amsterdam

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