Re: [hrpc] new title for draft-tenoever-hrpc-political

[Corinne Cath <[e-mail]>]

I like a.) Notes on networking standards and politics part of this whole
process imho is to get people to read the doc to begin with, which seems
most likely with a clear and recognizable title. my 2 cents, corinne

On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:19 AM, Mark Perkins <
marknoumea=[e-mail]> wrote:

> 'Notes on networking standards and politics'
>
> get my vote!
>
> Mark Perkins
>
> On Friday, July 20, 2018, 10:10:27 AM GMT+11, Niels ten Oever <
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
>
> Off-list discussion with Stephen resulted in a new option:
>
> 'Notes on networking standards and politics'
>
> That gives us a few options:
>
> a) Notes on networking standards and politics
> b) On Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
> c) Notes on Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
> d) ?
>
> Curious to hear what the RG thinks sounds best, new suggestions ofc also
> welcome.
>
> Best,
>
> Niels
>
> On 07/20/2018 12:43 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 07/20/2018 12:38 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> >>
> >> Hiya,
> >>
> >> On 19/07/18 23:33, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you all very much for the spirited discussion at the session. To
> >>> resolve the issue with draft political and remove the last issue
> mention
> >>> blocking adoption I would like to propose to rename the draft:
> >>>
> >>> On Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
> >>
> >> Meh:-)
> >>
> >> How'd something more like "Some background on networking standards
> >> and politics" work? That seems to describe the content of the draft
> >> better to me, (modulo not having carefully read the latest rev, as I
> >> admitted at the mic, so don't take me too seriously.)
> >>
> >> My reason for suggesting that is to try end up with something that
> >> would be less surprising for an IETF (or IEEE 802 or W3C...) reader.
> >>
> >
> > Exactly that audience is saying time and again that 'technology is
> > neutral' / 'protocols are neutral' / 'standards are neutral'. That is I
> > would like to address that in the title (and the draft).
> >
> > Following work can then address how we could come up with approaches to
> > address that.
> >
> >
> >> Cheers,
> >> S.
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Would that work for you all? I also added a few mentions of value
> >>> neutrality (and the lack thereof) for consistency in the abstract,
> >>> introduction, conclusion and the way forward.
> >>>
> >>> Changes can be seen here:
> >>> https://github.com/nllz/IRTF-HRPC/commit/
> 03826cd73959e692bb1f7aa305f9fbdee325dbd2#diff-
> fb9d617868a367dd946ef225cc5e6de1
> >>>
> >>> Happy to discuss.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Niels
> >>>
> >
>
> --
> Niels ten Oever
> Researcher and PhD Candidate
> Datactive Research Group
> University of Amsterdam
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Corinne Cath
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