Re: [hrpc] new title for draft-tenoever-hrpc-political

Hi chairs,

With unanimous support for 'Notes on networking standards and politics'
on the list as a title for draft-political, it seems like the final
hurdle for RG adoption of the document (as discussed in Montreal) has
been passed, right?

Can I publish it as RG document with the new title?

Best,

Niels

On 07/20/2018 08:00 PM, Amelia Andersdotter wrote:
> On 2018-07-20 10:33, Corinne Cath wrote:
>> I like a.) Notes on networking standards and politics part of this
>> whole process imho is to get people to read the doc to begin with,
>> which seems most likely with a clear and recognizable title. my 2
>> cents, corinne 
>>
> yeah, a)
> 
> +1
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 1:19 AM, Mark Perkins
>> <marknoumea=40yahoo.com@dmarc.ietf.org
>> <mailto:marknoumea=40yahoo.com@dmarc.ietf..org>> wrote:
>>
>>     'Notes on networking standards and politics'
>>
>>     get my vote!
>>
>>     Mark Perkins
>>
>>     On Friday, July 20, 2018, 10:10:27 AM GMT+11, Niels ten Oever
>>     <mail@nielstenoever.net <mailto:mail@nielstenoever.net>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>     Off-list discussion with Stephen resulted in a new option:
>>
>>     'Notes on networking standards and politics'
>>
>>     That gives us a few options:
>>
>>     a) Notes on networking standards and politics
>>     b) On Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
>>     c) Notes on Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
>>     d) ?
>>
>>     Curious to hear what the RG thinks sounds best, new suggestions
>>     ofc also
>>     welcome.
>>
>>     Best,
>>
>>     Niels
>>
>>     On 07/20/2018 12:43 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On 07/20/2018 12:38 AM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>     >>
>>     >> Hiya,
>>     >>
>>     >> On 19/07/18 23:33, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>>     >>> Hi all,
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Thank you all very much for the spirited discussion at the
>>     session. To
>>     >>> resolve the issue with draft political and remove the last
>>     issue mention
>>     >>> blocking adoption I would like to propose to rename the draft:
>>     >>>
>>     >>> On Value Neutrality and the Politics of Standards
>>     >>
>>     >> Meh:-)
>>     >>
>>     >> How'd something more like "Some background on networking standards
>>     >> and politics" work? That seems to describe the content of the draft
>>     >> better to me, (modulo not having carefully read the latest rev,
>>     as I
>>     >> admitted at the mic, so don't take me too seriously.)
>>     >>
>>     >> My reason for suggesting that is to try end up with something that
>>     >> would be less surprising for an IETF (or IEEE 802 or W3C...)
>>     reader.
>>     >>
>>     >
>>     > Exactly that audience is saying time and again that 'technology is
>>     > neutral' / 'protocols are neutral' / 'standards are neutral'.
>>     That is I
>>     > would like to address that in the title (and the draft).
>>     >
>>     > Following work can then address how we could come up with
>>     approaches to
>>     > address that.
>>     >
>>     >
>>     >> Cheers,
>>     >> S.
>>     >>
>>     >>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Would that work for you all? I also added a few mentions of value
>>     >>> neutrality (and the lack thereof) for consistency in the abstract,
>>     >>> introduction, conclusion and the way forward.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Changes can be seen here:
>>     >>>
>>     https://github.com/nllz/IRTF-HRPC/commit/03826cd73959e692bb1f7aa305f9fbdee325dbd2#diff-fb9d617868a367dd946ef225cc5e6de1
>>     <https://github.com/nllz/IRTF-HRPC/commit/03826cd73959e692bb1f7aa305f9fbdee325dbd2#diff-fb9d617868a367dd946ef225cc5e6de1>
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Happy to discuss.
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Best,
>>     >>>
>>     >>> Niels
>>     >>>
>>     >
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Niels ten Oever
>>     Researcher and PhD Candidate
>>     Datactive Research Group
>>     University of Amsterdam
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