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Re: [Idr] WG Adoption call for draft-spaghetti-idr-bgp-sendholdtimer-09 (2/28/2023 to 3/14/2023)

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Mon, 06 March 2023 19:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Idr] WG Adoption call for draft-spaghetti-idr-bgp-sendholdtimer-09 (2/28/2023 to 3/14/2023)
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> But technically what is in this draft and apparently prototyped in one
> open source implementation has a very limited (read narrow)
> applicability.

adding complexity and significan new code to bgp when, as you and enke
point out, the vendors can merely flush out their tcp implementation
where the solution is already specified.

randy

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