Re: [Idr] WG Adoption call for draft-spaghetti-idr-bgp-sendholdtimer-09 (2/28/2023 to 3/14/2023)

[Robert Raszuk <[e-mail]>]

Hi Nick,

Great - so would co-authors be ok to add MUST to the draft that MIN value
of  SendHoldTimer  should be 60 minutes ?

If so I think it would clear any of my concerns.

Thx,
R.



On Tue, Mar 7, 2023 at 12:11 PM Nick Hilliard <[e-mail]> wrote:

> Mikael Abrahamsson wrote on 07/03/2023 10:09:
> > On Tue, 7 Mar 2023, Robert Raszuk wrote:
> >> But we discussed this ... If network is stable and you are only putting
> >> keepalives say every 60 sec it will be hours before the socket buffer
> >> get's
> >> filled and you get first notification about it to local BGP process.
> >>
> >> How is the solution presented in this draft helpful ?
> >
> > Our network (which has had this happen to us) sends data all the time,
> > and even if it takes hours it's still better than the alternative of not
> > detecting it at all.
>
> this draft is about unsticking connections which have been jammed for
> time periods longer than hours [bgpzombies], and it's normal for BGP
> session uptime to be measured in months rather than hours. For example,
> here's the output of an entirely unremarkable dfz leaf router:
>
> > Neighbor      V           AS MsgRcvd MsgSent   TblVer  InQ OutQ Up/Down
> State/PfxRcd
> > 185.x.x.a     4         zzzz  226429  218447 1698392790    0    0 9w6d
>           2
> > 185.x.x.b     4         zzzz 1230618  591626 1698392790    0    0 26w6d
>      10543
> > 185.x.x.c     4         zzzz  247092  103288 1698392790    0    0 4w4d
>       10543
> > 185.x.x.d     4         zzzz  643980  670503 1698392790    0    0 30w3d
>          0
> > 185.x.x.e     4         zzzz 23580593  525601 1698392790    0    0
> 23w6d      906760
> > 185.x.x.f     4         zzzz  363536  376941 1698392790    0    0 17w1d
>         25
>
> Nick
>