Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to 7/20) - Adoption of draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-05.txt and draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-17.txt

Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> Tue, 19 July 2022 16:33 UTC

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Thread-Topic: Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to 7/20) - Adoption of draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-05.txt and draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-17.txt
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Subject: Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to 7/20) - Adoption of draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-05.txt and draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-17.txt
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Greetings IDR:

I'm pleased to see so much passion about BGP.
However, as the IDR chair shepherding this call
I have received emails with concerns about mail list behavior
from proponents of CAR and proponents of CT.

To try to address some of these concerns, I opened Part 3 of the
CAR/CT adoption call to discuss operational differences:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/3RH-Ra4igU4y0sVNC0WM4W0WM0Q/

Part 3 of the CAR/CT Adoption has posting guidelines to
help each of you focus your technical opinions.
I ask all participants who I request to move
from Part 2 to Part 3 to move quickly to the other forum.

Part 2 of CAR/CT open for another week (7/20 to 7/27)
for those who are creating or deploying the CAR or CT
(operators, academic with experimentation,
users) to discuss their use case and reasons.

If you are an author, you get one post to Part 2 to briefly describe your
technical opinion.  After that initial post, go to Forum 3 to discuss details.

The chairs spent time before and during IETF-113
carefully working through the details of functionally equivalent

https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/e69NRd9i2aG0WUxFkShEfQHZsHo/<https://shared.outlook.inky.com/link?domain=mailarchive.ietf.org&t=h.eJxFzE0LwiAcgPGvEp5j_-mmzp12qXYKKiLo5qabshdDV0TRdy9PXX_wPG909yMqV8gsyy2UAJO0o_StsQ-dWL10ifM9RIAp9GCVB83E_qiEJXKXXs7P7XAym-5QX0PtAK1XaIi7WS-_EKe0YAITCEZ6HapZvUzSugk4U1xwKppMiK7IG6yVkqzIMW5ySSgHzCgvcCYylhAarzpelfHSVa0NrYub6Cr6Xz5fQF4_fw.MEUCIG0FBDC6_WHUxk5d6CSkvERACsCtw3SjzaFB3B0ITNKKAiEA_kB8w5QnwI17jQHPWLXo8LuycehP0KQ_dt5_-yNiQlw>

The discussion on this mail thread has not changed our opinion.

We have heard that operational differences matter to the operators
depending on the deployment topology and the use.

We look forward to hearing from more people on CAR and CT drafts.

Cheer, Sue