Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to 7/20) - Adoption of draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-05.txt and draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-17.txt
"Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)" <mankamis@cisco.com> Tue, 19 July 2022 17:49 UTC
Return-Path: <mankamis@cisco.com>
X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FC01C14F606 for <idr@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 19 Jul 2022 10:49:16 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -9.604
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-9.604 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, USER_IN_DEF_DKIM_WL=-7.5] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.com header.b=QH+BI+kW; dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=cisco.onmicrosoft.com header.b=JLY9EchD
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MWDCVHzHS3l9 for <idr@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 19 Jul 2022 10:49:12 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from alln-iport-3.cisco.com (alln-iport-3.cisco.com [173.37.142.90]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8E42AC1345E3 for <idr@ietf.org>; Tue, 19 Jul 2022 10:48:58 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=cisco.com; i=@cisco.com; l=41713; q=dns/txt; s=iport; t=1658252938; x=1659462538; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:references:in-reply-to: mime-version; bh=7odUx6hrefUTILJsiOINGS4b91MdrWpn5kyXHkyY7xU=; b=QH+BI+kWRBNtjzb0WEKeVUZLEgTJDNXnDvCIOcm3fmjolC3XLrvisQ8L aG2JKrSXES7ba8QpXyqZGn18xnf5c9vD147HCDy19nB1Kfd9fkdzYP3LY DcttBxn6u4lLXU7987nq47eeLjdKOvujXRICN4t7wAu8rNfNxUarpIyd7 A=;
X-IPAS-Result: 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
IronPort-PHdr: A9a23:8d+GWx8RRfp4tP9uWCXoyV9kXcBvk7n3PwtA7J0hhvoOd6m45J3tM QTZ4ukll17GW4jXqpcmw+rbuqztQyoMtJCGtn1RfJlFTRRQj8IQkkQpC9KEDkuuKvnsYmQ6E c1OWUUj8Wu8NB1eGd31YBvZpXjhhQM=
IronPort-Data: A9a23:obblaqr7zhsbXIoqMwcOQSwS8k5eBmKHZxIvgKrLsJaIsI4StFCzt garIBmCa/6OMWSgLt8gO46z/EgDusWEnIBmGlBopStkQX9A8OPIVI+TRqvS04x+DSFioGZPt Zh2hgzodZhsJpPkjk7xdOKn9RGQ7InQLpLkEunIJyttcgFtTSYlmHpLlvUw6mJSqYDR7zil5 JWj+aUzBHf/g2Quaj1NuvrZwP9SlK2aVA0w7wRWic9j5Dcyp1FNZLoDKKe4KWfPQ4U8NoZWk M6akdlVVkuAl/scIovNfoTTKyXmcZaOVeS6sUe6boD56vR0SoPe5Y5gXBYUQR8/ZzxkBLmdw v0V3XC7YV9B0qEhBI3xXjEAexySM5Gq95ebO1yW6uej6nH/cjzL4NNIKUp1M6wxr7Mf7WFmr ZT0KRgEahSFwumx2r/+Gq9nh98oK4/gO4Z3VnNIlG6CS614B8mYBfyWvLe03x9o7ixKNfPXY ckQbDt0RB/BeBZIfFwQDfrSmc/53yGjL2wG8An9Sawf02eOlVBqjbzRHpnwZcS6ftdIwWexn zeTl4j+KlRAXDCF8hKE/miEh+LTk2X8Qo16KVGj3vduhFvWzWsJBVhGE1C6uvK+zEW5XrqzN nApx8bnloBqnGTDczU3d0TQTKKs1vLEZ+dtLg==
IronPort-HdrOrdr: A9a23:0bH6lal0W186gwk6bkhUhXn1uWjpDfOrimdD5ihNYBxZY6Wkfp +V8sjzhCWatN9OYh0dcIi7SdS9qADnhOJICOgqTP2ftWzd2VdAQ7sSlLcKrweQeREWs9Qtr5 uIEJIOReEYb2IK9foSiTPQe71Lrbn3k5xAx92utEuFJjsaD52Imj0JbDpzZXcGIzWua6BJca a0145inX6NaH4XZsO0Cj0uRO7YveDGk5rgfFovGwMnwBPmt0Ll1JfKVzyjmjsOWTJGxrkvtU LflRbi26mlu/anjjfBym7o6YhMkteJ8KoNOCXMsLlaFtzfsHfpWG1TYczAgNnzmpDs1L8eqq iMn/7nBbU315qeRBDwnfKn4Xie7N9n0Q6d9bbfuwqlnSQ8LwhKUvaoQuliA13kAgMbzaBB+b MO0GSDu5VNCxTc2Cz7+tjTThlv0lG5uHw4jIco/jViuKYlGchsRLYkjTVoOYZFGDi/5JEsEe FoAs2Z7PFKcUmCZ3ScumV02tSjUnk6Ax/DGyE5y4eo+ikTmGo8w1oTxcQZkHtF/JUhS4Nc7+ CBNqhzjrlBQsIfcKo4DuYcRsm8DHDLXHv3QSqvCEWiELtCN2PGqpbx7rlw7Oa2eIYQxJ93g5 jFWEMwjx9HR6svM7z64HRmyGG/fIzmZ0Wc9ih33ekKhoHB
X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true
X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.92,284,1650931200"; d="scan'208,217";a="910449603"
Received: from alln-core-8.cisco.com ([173.36.13.141]) by alln-iport-3.cisco.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-SEED-SHA; 19 Jul 2022 17:48:57 +0000
Received: from mail.cisco.com (xfe-aln-001.cisco.com [173.37.135.121]) by alln-core-8.cisco.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 26JHmvV8024098 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <idr@ietf.org>; Tue, 19 Jul 2022 17:48:57 GMT
Received: from xfe-rtp-004.cisco.com (64.101.210.234) by xfe-aln-001.cisco.com (173.37.135.121) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.2.986.14; Tue, 19 Jul 2022 12:48:56 -0500
Received: from NAM12-MW2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (64.101.32.56) by xfe-rtp-004.cisco.com (64.101.210.234) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.2.986.14 via Frontend Transport; Tue, 19 Jul 2022 13:48:56 -0400
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; s=arcselector9901; d=microsoft.com; cv=none; b=fjWvXyxxZcMoOmGI24uNBZu7AUtogYi9RfcGCc6lKeWqDfURGxSdOdGlvfqatTYD763c691a1JwDPi0JoO/v5eboHvANUezQSPM60AWjFgC62jqiljRekP0x3QEQ8iqyFIzTahd6cJOI5tNM8xeZCP7QBI3oN0FNRXMn+P0CowS16+XorO1+Fq/BXVoL93Ax7soWRguSFL3q8KMjqGNEKJM0eKy75S7ZGEEz3kil6j5dMiSb2owJlcRpSWOSqtLt+rRNUpTz/JfLH+0yOtx5+guxcb+sPBYGUnq24oUydhvxKtZMTAScr9D5q3v7hoj1Rv43ZMggQbr2fPCKZ3K16Q==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=microsoft.com; s=arcselector9901; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-ChunkCount:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-0:X-MS-Exchange-AntiSpam-MessageData-1; bh=REBrPdeJCQ5BjBX93prczkQ1L9l6jP6Qpi/2bZZMg/k=; b=gHmiKMDq3octFL5I7Tur4SkR+lAJfcOTmzHkUt9L46WeXiPEcj0wBWMPAp9gFO2OjwD5iFPz0GyBrhPuZVzkx4SGo4Q4squVJDkSbfkdn0iJyy5Juflm/X/2NVvK9LfnnrDtD3LQtmG/BPBbaFmrmH+cef0GKitlq+tW6ZynKYLS0VUU5lJP4kttHJLY/PvONYXwjIFHJVXaCH7WbDnJM0GXdvqsk+8v21ip59VKJdV8h6SdskHFMxJhOuxPnMU5hvc0xNLEPgFE9BfFNeOZooZ5mTFXepcIjIfy8QA6wJMDNQ3OIWJ9xZiFEu2nth+jLfRxnEZgb2onk6VyltnnNQ==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.microsoft.com 1; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=cisco.com; dmarc=pass action=none header.from=cisco.com; dkim=pass header.d=cisco.com; arc=none
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=cisco.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector2-cisco-onmicrosoft-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version:X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck; bh=REBrPdeJCQ5BjBX93prczkQ1L9l6jP6Qpi/2bZZMg/k=; b=JLY9EchDq3hBB5mFX0evKNC5enrDaTuxnIa6rJF2m3RVNZeEGpVcWngBV5N2gej7SqmO1DUQbqeQwFdpPVASz3I0/wED2BjskVO9++HrrFUgw5HxsHL52E5BVWIbb6lvEkobcjEBbDMWBRVFDnXCY+kDGo4tb6Dp36a0/cTXY2E=
Received: from BYAPR11MB2725.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:a02:c5::25) by CY5PR11MB6391.namprd11.prod.outlook.com (2603:10b6:930:38::21) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.5438.23; Tue, 19 Jul 2022 17:48:54 +0000
Received: from BYAPR11MB2725.namprd11.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::19dc:21aa:36f7:499f]) by BYAPR11MB2725.namprd11.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::19dc:21aa:36f7:499f%7]) with mapi id 15.20.5438.023; Tue, 19 Jul 2022 17:48:54 +0000
From: "Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)" <mankamis@cisco.com>
To: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>, "idr@ietf.org" <idr@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to 7/20) - Adoption of draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-05.txt and draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-17.txt
Thread-Index: AQHYmKbk+LtYIhoO1EqxCaZW2maySK2D/twQgAH/dDE=
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2022 17:48:54 +0000
Message-ID: <BYAPR11MB272553F82C58C1B3D7B99371DF8F9@BYAPR11MB2725.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>
References: <BYAPR11MB272563B16657315DD6F83462DF8B9@BYAPR11MB2725.namprd11.prod.outlook.com> <BYAPR08MB48729B8B4AD3BAEE1DA57A92B38C9@BYAPR08MB4872.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
In-Reply-To: <BYAPR08MB48729B8B4AD3BAEE1DA57A92B38C9@BYAPR08MB4872.namprd08.prod.outlook.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
authentication-results: dkim=none (message not signed) header.d=none;dmarc=none action=none header.from=cisco.com;
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 3927a4eb-614e-4bb7-37e4-08da69aef2d7
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: CY5PR11MB6391:EE_
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-ms-exchange-antispam-relay: 0
x-microsoft-antispam: BCL:0;
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: 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
x-forefront-antispam-report: CIP:255.255.255.255; CTRY:; LANG:en; SCL:1; SRV:; IPV:NLI; SFV:NSPM; H:BYAPR11MB2725.namprd11.prod.outlook.com; PTR:; CAT:NONE; SFS:(13230016)(4636009)(346002)(376002)(39860400002)(366004)(136003)(396003)(9686003)(38100700002)(86362001)(38070700005)(33656002)(122000001)(166002)(41300700001)(8936002)(316002)(5660300002)(55016003)(66556008)(71200400001)(66476007)(64756008)(966005)(186003)(66946007)(110136005)(7696005)(53546011)(6506007)(2906002)(52536014)(76116006)(478600001)(8676002)(66446008); DIR:OUT; SFP:1101;
x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata-chunkcount: 1
x-ms-exchange-antispam-messagedata-0: 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
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BYAPR11MB272553F82C58C1B3D7B99371DF8F9BYAPR11MB2725namp_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthAs: Internal
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-AuthSource: BYAPR11MB2725.namprd11.prod.outlook.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 3927a4eb-614e-4bb7-37e4-08da69aef2d7
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 19 Jul 2022 17:48:54.5138 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: 5ae1af62-9505-4097-a69a-c1553ef7840e
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-mailboxtype: HOSTED
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-userprincipalname: N92nHqrCtU1MuJVdBFXeJR4y96aCfZna1wL1ltSsv1lZ/gx9ilSD9zTjiTV64fc0Zg+vQ7gubXgqQhtDOJu4DQ==
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY5PR11MB6391
X-OriginatorOrg: cisco.com
X-Outbound-SMTP-Client: 173.37.135.121, xfe-aln-001.cisco.com
X-Outbound-Node: alln-core-8.cisco.com
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/XComSiUDoiJ8ZdLhjzQVaQG3Lw4>
Subject: Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to 7/20) - Adoption of draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-05.txt and draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-17.txt
X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing <idr.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/>
List-Post: <mailto:idr@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2022 17:49:16 -0000
Susan, Here are my thoughts for your question 1. Do you agree or disagree that these two drafts are functionally identical? Agree they are functionally identical. But there are differences such as protocol encoding and compatibility with SR-TE 1. If you agree, should we have just one draft or do the operational difference encourage us to have two drafts? One draft would be best option to go with. 1. If you disagree, do the functional differences encourage us to have one or two drafts adopted? And as mentioned earlier the one draft which should be adopted is BGP CAR. Mankamana From: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com> Date: Monday, July 18, 2022 at 4:19 AM To: Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) <mankamis@cisco.com>, idr@ietf.org <idr@ietf.org> Subject: RE: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to 7/20) - Adoption of draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-05.txt and draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-17.txt Mankamana: Thank you for your input. Do you think you could take a moment to answer this question: 1. Do you agree or disagree that these two drafts are functionally identical? 2. If you agree, should we have just one draft or do the operational difference encourage us to have two drafts? 3. If you disagree, do the functional differences encourage us to have one or two drafts adopted? Cheerily, Susan Hares From: Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) <mankamis@cisco.com> Sent: Friday, July 15, 2022 8:12 PM To: Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com>; idr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to 7/20) - Adoption of draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-05.txt and draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-17.txt WG, Support the adoption of draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-05.txt and oppose the adoption of draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-17.txt. Though many points discussed and documented at https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/4Sffm_AR-wW9_jEEn3UfPGBbG4U/ , some of the reasons for my input are * As WG we must have solution where future extension can be easy. In case of BGP CAR solution multiple transports including MPLS , SR-MPLS and SRv6 are supported natively. All of these transport are very well deployed or in process of deployment. Native support provides flexibility to be able to deploy different transport without much impact where as CT solution supports only label encoding in the route NLRI. Addition of any other encap is not handled automatically. This point does make BGP CAR as robust solution compare to CT. * Operational simplicity : BGP CAR being similar to BGP-LU in its operational model, its preserving the BGP-LU simplicity . I am also aware of BGP CAR implementation by multiple vendors including cisco . Mankamana From: Idr <idr-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:idr-bounces@ietf.org>> on behalf of Susan Hares <shares@ndzh.com<mailto:shares@ndzh.com>> Date: Wednesday, July 6, 2022 at 11:16 AM To: idr@ietf.org<mailto:idr@ietf.org> <idr@ietf.org<mailto:idr@ietf.org>> Subject: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to 7/20) - Adoption of draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-05.txt and draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-17.txt This begins a 2-week WG Adoption call (7/6/2022 to 7/20/2022) for the following drafts: 1. draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-05.txt (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car/) 1. draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes-17.txt (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kaliraj-idr-bgp-classful-transport-planes/) The associated drafts may be useful in your consideration. CAR: 1. draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy-22 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/ draft-ietf-spring-segment-routing-policy/ 1. draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy-18 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/ draft-ietf-idr-segment-routing-te-policy/ 1. draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-problem-statement-05.txt https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dskc-bess-bgp-car-problem-statement/ CT 1. draft-hegde-spring-mpls-seamless-sr-06.txt https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hegde-spring-mpls-seamless-sr/ 1. draft-kaliraj-idr-multinexthop-attribute-02.txt (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kaliraj-idr-multinexthop-attribute/) 1. draft-kaliraj-bess-bgp-sig-private-mpls-labels-04 (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kaliraj-bess-bgp-sig-private-mpls-labels/) You may discuss adoption of one or both the main drafts (CAR or Classful-Transport (CT)) in your response, and the associate drafts. A few caveats on your discussion: 1. Please do not worry whether the drafts belong in BESS or IDR. Both BESS and IDR work on creating relevant quality standards in BGP, and the chairs will work this out. 2. The IDR has spent time over 2020-2022 discussing these drafts. For background information, see the following links below. You can refer to these previous presentations or email discussions in your responses. 3. Please constrain your discussion to whether these drafts should be adopted. I’ve started another email thread on whether path establishment/distribution for a color (aka QOS/SLA/Transport Class) should be done via a specific BGP route (i.e., per-color NLRI) rather than as per-color attributes on a route. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/FhoK04HsSy9tR7ioV7AD0Vv6Ir4/ Questions (to consider) for these drafts: Jeff Haas (IDR Co-chair) posted a summary on March 21, 2022 that for route resolution and route origination/propagation, BGP-CAR and BGP-CT are functionally identical, but operationally different. ( https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/e69NRd9i2aG0WUxFkShEfQHZsHo/ 1. Do you agree or disagree that these two drafts are functionally identical? 2. If you agree, should we have just one draft or do the operational difference encourage us to have two drafts? 3. If you disagree, do the functional differences encourage us to have one or two drafts adopted?
- [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to 7/20… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Tomasz Szewczyk
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … bruno.decraene
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Aravind Srinivas Srinivasa Prabhakar
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Kaliraj Vairavakkalai
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Moshiko Nayman
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Natrajan Venkataraman
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Aravind Srinivas Srinivasa Prabhakar
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Kaliraj Vairavakkalai
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Reshma Das
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Moshiko Nayman
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Moshiko Nayman
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Deepak Gowda
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … MEANS, ISRAEL L
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Daisuke Sugahara
- [Idr] Fwd: Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to… Ketan Talaulikar
- Re: [Idr] Fwd: Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/… Shawn Zhang
- Re: [Idr] Fwd: Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/… Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Swadesh Agrawal (swaagraw)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Swadesh Agrawal (swaagraw)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Luay Jalil
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Balaji Rajagopalan
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Miya Kohno
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … James Guichard
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … James Guichard
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Miya Kohno
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Srihari Sangli
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … 苏远超(以泰)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Phil Bedard
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Aijun Wang
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Aijun Wang
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Kaliraj Vairavakkalai
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Shraddha Hegde
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Ahmed Abdelsalam (ahabdels)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Julian Klaiber
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Julian Klaiber
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Ketan Talaulikar
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Dhamija, Amit
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Bernier, Daniel
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Gyan Mishra
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Carmine Scarpitta
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Dhamija, Amit
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Severin Dellsperger
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Julian Klaiber
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … slitkows.ietf
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Stefano Salsano
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Antonio Cianfrani
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Satoru Matsushima
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Voyer, Daniel
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Srihari Sangli
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Ketan Talaulikar
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Laurent Metzger
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Julian Lucek
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Kaliraj Vairavakkalai
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Rabadan, Jorge (Nokia - US/Sunnyvale)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Gaurav Dawra
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Henderickx, Wim (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Rokui, Reza
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Robert Raszuk
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Susan Hares
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Ianik Semco (isemco)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Ahmed Bashandy
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … slitkows.ietf
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Wanghaibo (Rainsword)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Ahmed Abdelsalam (ahabdels)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Pablo Camarillo (pcamaril)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Jeffrey (Zhaohui) Zhang
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Satya Mohanty (satyamoh)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … zhuyq8@chinatelecom.cn
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Ianik Semco (isemco)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Jose Liste
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Krzysztof Szarkowicz
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … David Smith (djsmith)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Derek Yeung
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Brent Foster (brfoster)
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … MEANS, ISRAEL L
- Re: [Idr] Part 2 of CAR/CT Adoption call (7/6 to … Kalyani Rajaraman