Re: [ietf-dkim] Working group last call on draft-ietf-dkim-implementation-report

Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> Tue, 05 October 2010 02:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ietf-dkim] Working group last call on draft-ietf-dkim-implementation-report
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Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:

> Actually the data are still there.  It was just reworded, as per Jeff's suggestion:
> 
>    Identities:  73.8% of the signatures observed included a "d=" value
>       matching the domain in the From: field.
> 
> ...so this is a non-issue.

Sure it is.  Was it 78.9% for all implementations?  AOL and GOOGLE, 
the 2006 Interoperability Event participants,  your OpenDKIM network 
of implementators?  Or was it just for AOL 78.9%

In fact, one can take a swag that google's data is 100% third party 
because it was there reception analysis - unless one suggest google 
allows others to sign as GMAIL to send to their servers?

Stop skewing DATA - its unethical. We might not be smart but we are 
not STUPID.

-- 
Hector Santos, CTO
http://www.santronics.com
http://santronics.blogspot.com


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