Re: Changes needed to Last Call boilerplate
Willie Gillespie <wgillespie+ietf@es2eng.com> Fri, 13 February 2009 02:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: Changes needed to Last Call boilerplate
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David Morris wrote: > Seems like a unique mailbox per lastcall would be very helpful all around. > Right now, gathering and evaluating comments must be a nightmare. An > alternative, would be a single LC mailbox as suggested, but require EVERY > subject line to carry the last call ID, preferable in a form sensible to > current mail clients. > > In the case of unique lists per lastcall, provide an opt-in metasubcribe > to make it easy for folks who generally want to follow last call > discussions to just be subscribed. > > *AND* require subscribe to post ... no cute confirm reply to bypass. I > strongly believe that anyone who wants to provide feedback should want > to see the comments on their feed back. [If the cute confirm created > an automatic 48 hour subscription as per my next point, that would > work too.] > > *AND* no unsubscribe or post only for 48 hours after initial subscription. > For real participants, this wouldn't be an issue and for email campaigns, > well they just need to experience the same disrruption their campaign > causes. > > David Morris Not a bad idea. In fact, it may be useful to have a unique "list" per draft, so every comment relating to a particular draft can be tracked historically. This example is how I understand your suggestion: ietf+housley-tls-authz-extns@ietf.org will automatically be set up with the initial ID submission. E-mails sent to it will be regarded as discussion pertaining to the draft. Individuals interested in following the draft may subscribe to that list simply by sending an e-mail to it. (However, e-mails with simply the word "subscribe" in the body or subject line won't be forwarded to everyone.) They are also allowed to unsubscribe (perhaps following the 48-hour waiting period of initial subscription as David suggested). Note also that e-mails sent to ietf+draft-name@ietf.org would not be sent to the general list of ietf@ietf.org. I doubt this sort of functionality currently exists in Mailman, but perhaps it could be implemented. Willie
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