Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt> (Complaint Feedback Loop Operational Recommendations) to Informational RFC
"John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> Wed, 05 October 2011 20:16 UTC
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Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:18:43 -0000
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From: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
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Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt> (Complaint Feedback Loop Operational Recommendations) to Informational RFC
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>The "no derivative" clause makes it impossible to incorporate the >material in this draft in any IETF work. Section 3.3 of RFC 5378, on derivative works says: There are two exceptions to this requirement: documents describing proprietary technologies and documents that are republications of the work of other standards organizations. It looks to me like the latter clause applies here. RFC 5744 has similar language specifically for the Independent stream. Since J.D. happens to be on the relevant MAAWG committee, he could probably get approval to make minor changes, e.g., move the MAAWG blurb to the end, but I would rather the IETF stop nitpicking and just publish it. It's a reasonable discussion of a relevant topic on which MAAWG has more expertise than the IETF. RFCs 5564, 5728, 5830, 5831, and 5832, all are republished and have no-derivative notices, so this wouldn't be particularly new or unusual. R's, John
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… SM
- RE: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Barry Leiba
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Frank Ellermann
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… J.D. Falk
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Barry Leiba
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Douglas Otis
- RE: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Eliot Lear
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Hector
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Hector
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Hector
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… SM
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Frank Ellermann
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… John Levine
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Douglas Otis
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… SM
- RE: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Murray S. Kucherawy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Alessandro Vesely
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… J.D. Falk
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Barry Leiba
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… J.D. Falk
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Frank Ellermann
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Barry Leiba
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… John Levine
- Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt… Frank Ellermann