Re: Last Call: <draft-jdfalk-maawg-cfblbcp-02.txt> (Complaint Feedback Loop Operational Recommendations) to Informational RFC

For the record, I tend to dislike pollution of the RFC series with PR
blurbs as well.  This having been said, I would be far more interested
in a discussion about the actual substantive content of the document.

Eliot

On 10/5/11 2:23 AM, Douglas Otis wrote:
> On 10/4/11 9:09 AM, J.D. Falk wrote:
>>>> "About MAAWG
>>>> >>  >>     MAAWG [1] is the largest global industry association
>>>> working against
>>>> >>     Spam, viruses, denial-of-service attacks and other online
>>>> >>     exploitation.  Its' members include ISPs, network and mobile
>>>> >>     operators, key technology providers and volume sender
>>>> organizations.
>>>> >>     It represents over one billion mailboxes worldwide and its
>>>> membership
>>>> >>     contributed their expertise in developing this description
>>>> of current
>>>> >>     Feedback Loop practices."
>>>> >>  >>  Could the PR blurb be removed?
>>> >  >  I think it's useful in this document.  People reading IETF
>>> documents
>>> >  aren't likely to know what MAAWG is, and a short paragraph doesn't
>>> >  seem untoward.  I'd agree, if there were excessively long text for
>>> >  this, but it's brief.
>> MAAWG will insist on keeping this.  The primary purpose, in my mind,
>> is to show that even though this wasn't written within the IETF it
>> was still written by people who really do know what they're talking
>> about.
> I agree with Frank on this issue.  The PR blurb should not be
> included.  If MAAWG finds removal unacceptable, they are free to
> publish the document themselves among their other documents.  MAAWG
> has a closed membership heavily influenced by ISPs and high volume
> senders.  The IETF has normally resisted this type of influence by not
> referring to specific organizations.  Such influence is not always
> beneficial from the perspective of many IETF objectives.
>
> -Doug
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