Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-mtgvenue-meeting-policy-04.txt> (High level guidance for the meeting policy of the IETF) to Best Current Practice

[Lou Berger <[e-mail]>]

Tom,

     The data is public.  See 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/stats/meeting/country/ for the graph of 
what you're looking for...

Lou


On 4/22/2018 4:29 PM, tom p. wrote:
> Lou
>
> The analysis that would interest me, if it were possible, would be the
> trend for participants from China, suitably adjusted for the location of
> the meeting.   I suspect that, just as it is
> forecast that the world's largest economy will be, in due course, China,
> so some time later, the majority of participants at the IETF will be
> from
> China!  As an occasional attendee, I notice each time how many more
> people appear to be from that country; the London plenary quoted a
> figure of 9%, as I recall, a figure much greater than for any other
> continental European country.
>
> I see the centre of gravity of the IETF shifting.
>
> Tom Petch
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lou Berger" <[e-mail]>
> To: "Eric Rescorla" <[e-mail]>; "Andrew Sullivan"
> <[e-mail]>
> Cc: <[e-mail]>; "IETF discussion list" <[e-mail]>
> Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 9:02 PM
>
>> On 4/19/2018 8:36 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
>>> ...
>>>
>>> First, if you look at historical demographics, over the past 12
> IETFs,
>>> we have 23% Asia, 26% Europe, and 42% NA). Put another way, the last
>>> time we had > 1/3 Asian attendance was IETF 94 in Yokohama, and the
>>> last time we had less than 1/3 NA attendance was IETF 79 in Beijing.
>>> So, a policy that was designed to match per-continent attendance
> would
>>> be more like 2-1-1-*.
>> FWIW looking at the public data [1] for IETF 72-101 the attendee
>> distribution is as follows:
>>
>> Meetings in Asia -- 6686 Total attendees over 6 meetings:
>> Attendees from
>>    36% North America
>>    21% Europe
>>    41% Asia
>>    2% Other
>>
>> Meetings in North America -- 13878 Total attendees over 12 meetings:
>> Attendees from
>>    57% North America
>>    22% Europe
>>    19% Asia
>>    2% Other
>>
>> Meetings in Europe -- 14236 Total attendees over 11 meetings:
>> Attendees from
>>    39% North America
>>    39% Europe
>>    20% Asia
>>    2% Other
>>
>> For All Meetings -- 35843 Total attendees over 29 meetings: (basically
>> the same as ekr's numbers)
>> Attendees from
>>    45% North America
>>    29% Europe
>>    23% Asia
>>    2% Other
>>
>> Lou
>>
>> [1] starting at https://datatracker.ietf.org/stats/meeting/ (in the
>> above, asia includes numbers reported under "oceana")
>>
>