Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-mtgvenue-meeting-policy-04.txt> (High level guidance for the meeting policy of the IETF) to Best Current Practice

["tom p." <[e-mail]>]

Lou

The analysis that would interest me, if it were possible, would be the
trend for participants from China, suitably adjusted for the location of
the meeting.   I suspect that, just as it is
forecast that the world's largest economy will be, in due course, China,
so some time later, the majority of participants at the IETF will be
from
China!  As an occasional attendee, I notice each time how many more
people appear to be from that country; the London plenary quoted a
figure of 9%, as I recall, a figure much greater than for any other
continental European country.

I see the centre of gravity of the IETF shifting.

Tom Petch


----- Original Message -----
From: "Lou Berger" <[e-mail]>
To: "Eric Rescorla" <[e-mail]>; "Andrew Sullivan"
<[e-mail]>
Cc: <[e-mail]>; "IETF discussion list" <[e-mail]>
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2018 9:02 PM

> On 4/19/2018 8:36 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > First, if you look at historical demographics, over the past 12
IETFs,
> > we have 23% Asia, 26% Europe, and 42% NA). Put another way, the last
> > time we had > 1/3 Asian attendance was IETF 94 in Yokohama, and the
> > last time we had less than 1/3 NA attendance was IETF 79 in Beijing.
> > So, a policy that was designed to match per-continent attendance
would
> > be more like 2-1-1-*.
>
> FWIW looking at the public data [1] for IETF 72-101 the attendee
> distribution is as follows:
>
> Meetings in Asia -- 6686 Total attendees over 6 meetings:
> Attendees from
>   36% North America
>   21% Europe
>   41% Asia
>   2% Other
>
> Meetings in North America -- 13878 Total attendees over 12 meetings:
> Attendees from
>   57% North America
>   22% Europe
>   19% Asia
>   2% Other
>
> Meetings in Europe -- 14236 Total attendees over 11 meetings:
> Attendees from
>   39% North America
>   39% Europe
>   20% Asia
>   2% Other
>
> For All Meetings -- 35843 Total attendees over 29 meetings: (basically
> the same as ekr's numbers)
> Attendees from
>   45% North America
>   29% Europe
>   23% Asia
>   2% Other
>
> Lou
>
> [1] starting at https://datatracker.ietf.org/stats/meeting/ (in the
> above, asia includes numbers reported under "oceana")
>