Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt> (On Consensus and Humming in the IETF) to Informational RFC
Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com> Wed, 09 October 2013 12:35 UTC
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Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt> (On Consensus and Humming in the IETF) to Informational RFC
From: Ted Lemon <ted.lemon@nominum.com>
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On Oct 9, 2013, at 1:30 AM, Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@gmail.com> wrote: >> Rough consensus - An agreement by almost everyone that the proposed > > That's a lot like voting, I think. It's worse than voting, because it encourages people to invite their friends to sway the consensus. At least with voting you have the transparency of knowing who the electorate is. So if this were what "rough consensus" meant, rough consensus would most often be won by whoever has the most friends, which in practice is probably whoever works for the biggest company. So whatever "rough consensus" means, it can't mean "only a few people disagree."
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Ted Hardie
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Ted Lemon
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… John Leslie
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… John Leslie
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Ted Hardie
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Ted Hardie
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Dave Crocker
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Ted Lemon
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Ted Hardie
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… S Moonesamy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Eliot Lear
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Loa Andersson
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Loa Andersson
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Ted Lemon
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Loa Andersson
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Melinda Shore
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Jari Arkko
- RE: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Adrian Farrel
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Eliot Lear
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Pete Resnick
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… S Moonesamy
- Re: Last Call: <draft-resnick-on-consensus-05.txt… Jari Arkko