Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town
Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 30 July 2020 15:19 UTC
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From: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:19:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town
To: Victor Kuarsingh <victor@jvknet.com>
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It came out of a conversation with Allison and Karen, and without enough coffee today I am not sure who had that thought, maybe Allison? But, I agree it is a good idea. On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 11:11 AM Victor Kuarsingh <victor@jvknet.com> wrote: > Kathleen, > > I like that suggestion. In this push for more remote interaction, we can > rethink how we interact and it need not be anchored on historical posture > (mainly focused on 3 meetings a year). > > Regards, > > Victor K > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:47 Kathleen Moriarty < > kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I've just had other obligations, although the one time I was on it was >> great. It may be useful to have regular meetup times where people know to >> go and chat throughout the year. Maybe weekly and targeted at time zone >> convenient/changing times. >> >> Best regards, >> Kathleen >> >> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:27 AM John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> --On Thursday, July 30, 2020 05:09 -0700 joel jaeggli >>> <joelja@bogus.com> wrote: >>> >>> > On 7/30/20 04:30, Adrian Farrel wrote: >>> >> Hi, >>> >> >>> >> Am I the only one to miss random corridor conversations that >>> >> happen at face-to-face IETF meetings? >>> >> >>> >> Of course, planned coffee-time meet-ups can still be >>> >> scheduled using a variety of meeting tools, but the casual >>> >> bumping in to people and talking about things, and (better >>> >> still) hooking into other people's conversations to learn and >>> >> share, is a real loss. >>> >> >>> >> So I have been hanging around in Gather.Town >>> >> (https://ietf.gather.town/z6N2SDxHebMdDAfo/IETF-108) and >>> >> found this has worked quite nicely for exactly that reason. >>> >> Quick hellos, short chats, or longer rambling debates have >>> >> all been working nicely. >>> >> >>> >> But where is everybody? The number of people in the >>> >> application seems to range between 20 and 50. >>> >> >>> >> Is the problem that Gather.Town makes you run all sorts of >>> >> scripts that might be a bit icky? Or are we all really just >>> >> antisocial? >>> > >>> > Being in an inconvenient time zone this time has led to me for >>> > example being somewhat parsimonious with time, i suspect that >>> > others may have similar considerations. concurrency with >>> > timezone distributed communities is hard. >>> >>> While my time zone is a few hours less inconvenient than Joel's, >>> one advantage of all-day meetings, especially f2f ones where >>> almost everyone is off-site relative to their normal locations >>> is that IETF (including informal conversations and small >>> meetings) becomes the almost exclusive focus of attention for >>> the week. Cut that to about five hours, especially in a time >>> zone that leaves half the "normal" workday free, and monitoring >>> a group because something _might_ happen gets hard. And, as >>> Christian pointed out, I will not have my mic and camera active >>> when I'm not paying very active attention to a particular >>> session/application (and, yeah, icky and possibly somewhat >>> unconstrained scripts are another part of that problem). >>> >>> It also looks like something whose controls, etc., would take >>> some getting used to and time this week (or last) to figure it >>> out is, umm, limited. And, at least for me, the screen, >>> especially the very small black user name characters on a >>> striped dark brown background, is essentially unreadable, which >>> is another deterrent. >>> >>> john >>> >>> >> >> -- >> >> Best regards, >> Kathleen >> > -- Best regards, Kathleen
- Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Adrian Farrel
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Christian Hopps
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town joel jaeggli
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town John C Klensin
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town John C Klensin
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Vittorio Bertola
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Victor Kuarsingh
- RE: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Adrian Farrel
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Nico Williams
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Paul Wouters
- RE: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town John C Klensin
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Leif Johansson
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town John C Klensin
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Jacob Uecker
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Nico Williams
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- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Paul Wouters
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Nico Williams
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town John C Klensin
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Adam Roach
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- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Toerless Eckert
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Toerless Eckert
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Adam Roach
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Mark Andrews
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- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town John Levine
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Jay Daley
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town John Levine
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- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town Rich Kulawiec
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