Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town

Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 30 July 2020 15:19 UTC

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From: Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 11:19:05 -0400
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Subject: Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town
To: Victor Kuarsingh <victor@jvknet.com>
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It came out of a conversation with Allison and Karen, and without enough
coffee today I am not sure who had that thought, maybe Allison?  But, I
agree it is a good idea.

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 11:11 AM Victor Kuarsingh <victor@jvknet.com> wrote:

> Kathleen,
>
> I like that suggestion.  In this push for more remote interaction, we can
> rethink how we interact and it need not be anchored on historical posture
> (mainly focused on 3 meetings a year).
>
> Regards,
>
> Victor K
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:47 Kathleen Moriarty <
> kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've just had other obligations, although the one time I was on it was
>> great.  It may be useful to have regular meetup times where people know to
>> go and chat throughout the year.  Maybe weekly and targeted at time zone
>> convenient/changing times.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Kathleen
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:27 AM John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --On Thursday, July 30, 2020 05:09 -0700 joel jaeggli
>>> <joelja@bogus.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On 7/30/20 04:30, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>>> >> Hi,
>>> >>
>>> >> Am I the only one to miss random corridor conversations that
>>> >> happen at face-to-face IETF meetings?
>>> >>
>>> >> Of course, planned coffee-time meet-ups can still be
>>> >> scheduled using a variety of meeting tools, but the casual
>>> >> bumping in to people and talking about things, and (better
>>> >> still) hooking into other people's conversations to learn and
>>> >> share, is a real loss.
>>> >>
>>> >> So I have been hanging around in Gather.Town
>>> >> (https://ietf.gather.town/z6N2SDxHebMdDAfo/IETF-108) and
>>> >> found this has worked quite nicely for exactly that reason.
>>> >> Quick hellos, short chats, or longer rambling debates have
>>> >> all been working nicely.
>>> >>
>>> >> But where is everybody? The number of people in the
>>> >> application seems to range between 20 and 50.
>>> >>
>>> >> Is the problem that Gather.Town makes you run all sorts of
>>> >> scripts that might be a bit icky? Or are we all really just
>>> >> antisocial?
>>> >
>>> > Being in an inconvenient time zone this time has led to me for
>>> > example being somewhat parsimonious with time, i suspect that
>>> > others may have similar considerations. concurrency with
>>> > timezone distributed communities is hard.
>>>
>>> While my time zone is a few hours less inconvenient than Joel's,
>>> one advantage of all-day meetings, especially f2f ones where
>>> almost everyone is off-site relative to their normal locations
>>> is that IETF (including informal conversations and small
>>> meetings) becomes the almost exclusive focus of attention for
>>> the week.  Cut that to about five hours, especially in a time
>>> zone that leaves half the "normal" workday free, and monitoring
>>> a group because something _might_ happen gets hard.  And, as
>>> Christian pointed out, I will not have my mic and camera active
>>> when I'm not paying very active attention to a particular
>>> session/application (and, yeah, icky and possibly somewhat
>>> unconstrained scripts are another part of that problem).
>>>
>>> It also looks like something whose controls, etc., would take
>>> some getting used to and time this week (or last) to figure it
>>> out is, umm, limited.  And, at least for me, the screen,
>>> especially the very small black user name characters on a
>>> striped dark brown background, is essentially unreadable, which
>>> is another deterrent.
>>>
>>>    john
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Kathleen
>>
>

-- 

Best regards,
Kathleen