Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town

[Victor Kuarsingh <[e-mail]>]

Kathleen,

I like that suggestion.  In this push for more remote interaction, we can
rethink how we interact and it need not be anchored on historical posture
(mainly focused on 3 meetings a year).

Regards,

Victor K

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:47 Kathleen Moriarty <
[e-mail]> wrote:

> I've just had other obligations, although the one time I was on it was
> great.  It may be useful to have regular meetup times where people know to
> go and chat throughout the year.  Maybe weekly and targeted at time zone
> convenient/changing times.
>
> Best regards,
> Kathleen
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:27 AM John C Klensin <[e-mail]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> --On Thursday, July 30, 2020 05:09 -0700 joel jaeggli
>> <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>> > On 7/30/20 04:30, Adrian Farrel wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> Am I the only one to miss random corridor conversations that
>> >> happen at face-to-face IETF meetings?
>> >>
>> >> Of course, planned coffee-time meet-ups can still be
>> >> scheduled using a variety of meeting tools, but the casual
>> >> bumping in to people and talking about things, and (better
>> >> still) hooking into other people's conversations to learn and
>> >> share, is a real loss.
>> >>
>> >> So I have been hanging around in Gather.Town
>> >> (https://ietf.gather.town/z6N2SDxHebMdDAfo/IETF-108) and
>> >> found this has worked quite nicely for exactly that reason.
>> >> Quick hellos, short chats, or longer rambling debates have
>> >> all been working nicely.
>> >>
>> >> But where is everybody? The number of people in the
>> >> application seems to range between 20 and 50.
>> >>
>> >> Is the problem that Gather.Town makes you run all sorts of
>> >> scripts that might be a bit icky? Or are we all really just
>> >> antisocial?
>> >
>> > Being in an inconvenient time zone this time has led to me for
>> > example being somewhat parsimonious with time, i suspect that
>> > others may have similar considerations. concurrency with
>> > timezone distributed communities is hard.
>>
>> While my time zone is a few hours less inconvenient than Joel's,
>> one advantage of all-day meetings, especially f2f ones where
>> almost everyone is off-site relative to their normal locations
>> is that IETF (including informal conversations and small
>> meetings) becomes the almost exclusive focus of attention for
>> the week.  Cut that to about five hours, especially in a time
>> zone that leaves half the "normal" workday free, and monitoring
>> a group because something _might_ happen gets hard.  And, as
>> Christian pointed out, I will not have my mic and camera active
>> when I'm not paying very active attention to a particular
>> session/application (and, yeah, icky and possibly somewhat
>> unconstrained scripts are another part of that problem).
>>
>> It also looks like something whose controls, etc., would take
>> some getting used to and time this week (or last) to figure it
>> out is, umm, limited.  And, at least for me, the screen,
>> especially the very small black user name characters on a
>> striped dark brown background, is essentially unreadable, which
>> is another deterrent.
>>
>>    john
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Best regards,
> Kathleen
>