Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town

Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca> Thu, 30 July 2020 17:46 UTC

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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2020 13:46:48 -0400
From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
To: Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com>
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Subject: Re: Disappointing take-up of Gather.Town
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On Thu, 30 Jul 2020, Nico Williams wrote:

> On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 10:45:27AM -0400, Kathleen Moriarty wrote:
>> I've just had other obligations, although the one time I was on it was
>> great.  It may be useful to have regular meetup times where people know to
>> go and chat throughout the year.  Maybe weekly and targeted at time zone
>> convenient/changing times.
>
> +1

That could work.

> Also, maybe we need scheduled hallway meetups during other weeks as
> well, because if one's TZ offset to the meeting's is large enough, it's
> just too difficult to spare 10 hours a day to the meeting and hallway
> meetings.

For me, I noticed that after my early morning start and having a few
meetings behind my laptop, I just need to have a break and leave my
house, catch some sun and a coffee. So that means I'm not available in
the "coffee time slots". I can't see myself doing 3h of meetings, 30
minutes of "still behind my laptop chatting with people", followed by
3h of meetings.

> When I've attended physical meetings, the workday goes from 8AM or so
> (breakfast, 9AM meetings) to around 11PM or midnight even (dinner,
> "dinner BoFs", "bar BoFs", hallway meetings, catching up with $WORK,
> etc.).  That's a 16 hour day considering that even just social events
> (eg lunch) generally involve work in some fashion.  There's no way to do
> 10 of 16 hours on an 8 hour TZ phase difference.

Even without the timezone change, those hallways and lunch/coffee
meetings are still you taking a break from sitting in a chair behind
your laptop. And gather.town does not offer me that.

> We might want to consider spreadign remote-only meetings over two weeks
> instead of one.

Please don't :)
I can mark a week as "IETF week" and my collegues know I'm mostly
gone/busy, but extending that to two weeks would not work. It would
result in me not being able to drop most non-IETF work, and it would
be harder for me to be seen as "busy at IETF". So regular work would
interfere and expect precedence over my IETF meetings.

Paul