Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regarding draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats
Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com> Wed, 03 July 2013 19:16 UTC
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From: Ted Lemon <Ted.Lemon@nominum.com>
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Subject: Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regarding draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats
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On Jul 3, 2013, at 2:18 PM, Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> wrote: > As with most 'social' analyses, it's usually a good idea to look for a bit more than an entirely trivial numbers game, such as by trying to find some criterion that helps to distinguish amongst the appellants. Yup. E.g., it's worth reading the IESG response to John Klensin's appeal, and also the IESG response to Dean's most recent appeal. I wasn't on the IESG for either of these, so I have no attachment to the text as written, but in both cases it seems very clear to me that the right thing was done, and that the responses were well reasoned and thorough.
- RE: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… l.wood
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Bob Hinden
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Randy Bush
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Russ Housley
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Dave Crocker
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Jari Arkko
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… William McCall
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Pete Resnick
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Bary… Warren Kumari
- Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Bary… John C Klensin
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Dave Crocker
- Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Bary… Sam Hartman
- Re: Appeal Response to [removed] regarding draft-… SM
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Bary… Pete Resnick
- Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Bary… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Appeal Response to [removed] regarding draft-… Eliot Lear
- Re: Appeal Response to [removed] regarding draft-… Michael StJohns
- Re: [IETF] Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdu… Warren Kumari
- RE: [IETF] Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdu… l.wood
- Re: [IETF] Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdu… Doug Barton
- Re: [IETF] Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdu… Dave Cridland
- Re: [IETF] [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussal… Ted Lemon
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Jari Arkko