Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regarding draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats
Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Wed, 03 July 2013 17:02 UTC
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Subject: Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regarding draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats
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On Jul 3, 2013, at 12:32 PM, Pete Resnick <presnick@qti.qualcomm.com> wrote: > On 7/2/13 6:37 PM, l.wood@surrey.ac.uk wrote: >> Do we have any statistics on how many appeals to the IESG fail and how many succeed? >> > > My quick read of http://www.ietf.org/iesg/appeal.html: > > Accepted: 6 > Denied: 25 > Withdrawn: 1 > > One appellant appealed 12 times and all of the appeals were denied. One appellant appealed 4 times, all denied. One appellant appealed 3 times, all denied. > > At least two of the accepted appeals resulted in a different remedy than requested by the appellant (i.e., adding an IESG Note to a document instead of making other changes or rejecting the document). > > At least two of the denied appeals were on strictly procedural grounds; one came over two months after the action, one was appealing an IAB decision that was out of jurisdiction for the IESG to decide. > > Interpret the above as you see fit. Thank you -- another worthwhile thing to do is look at who all has appealed and ask yourself "Do I really want to be part of this club?" Other than a *very* small minority of well known and well respected folk the http://www.ietf.org/iesg/appeal.html page is basically a handy kook reference. W > > pr > > -- > Pete Resnick<http://www.qualcomm.com/~presnick/> > Qualcomm Technologies, Inc. - +1 (858)651-4478 > -- It is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead. -- E.W Dijkstra, 1930-2002
- RE: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… l.wood
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Bob Hinden
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Randy Bush
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Russ Housley
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Dave Crocker
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Jari Arkko
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… William McCall
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Pete Resnick
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Bary… Warren Kumari
- Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Bary… John C Klensin
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Dave Crocker
- Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Bary… Sam Hartman
- Re: Appeal Response to [removed] regarding draft-… SM
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Ted Lemon
- Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Bary… Pete Resnick
- Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Bary… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Appeal Response to [removed] regarding draft-… Eliot Lear
- Re: Appeal Response to [removed] regarding draft-… Michael StJohns
- Re: [IETF] Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdu… Warren Kumari
- RE: [IETF] Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdu… l.wood
- Re: [IETF] Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdu… Doug Barton
- Re: [IETF] Re: [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdu… Dave Cridland
- Re: [IETF] [IETF] Re: Appeal Response to Abdussal… Ted Lemon
- Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regardin… Jari Arkko