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Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regarding draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 03 July 2013 03:10 UTC

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Date: Wed, 03 Jul 2013 15:10:23 +1200
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regarding draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats
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On 03/07/2013 14:23, Russ Housley wrote:
> http://www.ietf.org/iesg/appeal.html
> 
> Every appeal ever submitted to the IESG and its response can be found here.

...since late 2002, that is. There were appeals earlier in history. The
first one I recall reached the IAB in 1995, and had presumably already
been rejected by the IESG. However, statistics since 2002 are probably
enough.

I'd say that rejected appeals quite often lead to clarification of
procedures for the future; therefore they have value, even if it
isn't immediately obvious.

   Brian

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