Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regarding draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats

Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Wed, 03 July 2013 00:09 UTC

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Subject: Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regarding draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats
From: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
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Lloyd,



On Jul 2, 2013, at 4:37 PM, l.wood@surrey.ac.uk wrote:

> Do we have any statistics on how many appeals to the IESG fail and how many succeed?

Appeals are listed at:

   https://www.ietf.org/iesg/appeal.html

Bob

> 
> If I knew that 97% of appeals get rejected, I wouldn't even bother writing one...
> 
> (On the other hand, that might simply be because 97% of the appeals are written by loons. Statistics can't tell us everything.)
> 
> Lloyd Wood
> http://sat-net.com/L.Wood/
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