Re: Appeal Response to Abdussalam Baryun regarding draft-ietf-manet-nhdp-sec-threats

Dave Crocker <dhc@dcrocker.net> Wed, 03 July 2013 03:44 UTC

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On 7/2/2013 8:10 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> On 03/07/2013 14:23, Russ Housley wrote:
>> http://www.ietf.org/iesg/appeal.html
>>
>> Every appeal ever submitted to the IESG and its response can be found here.
>
> ...since late 2002, that is. There were appeals earlier in history. The
> first one I recall reached the IAB in 1995, and had presumably already
> been rejected by the IESG. However, statistics since 2002 are probably
> enough.


I believe I submitted the first appeal.  It was to break a logjam with 
the the IETF's failure to sign an agreement with Sun, to get NFS brought 
into the IETF.  I had been the cognizant AD when they approached the 
IETF, but the ball got dropped after that.

So it wasn't so much 'rejected' by the IESG as it was cast in terms of 
IESG failure, although really no one was quite sure who needed to sign 
the contract with Sun and everyone was afraid of doing it.

My reading of the appeal was that it succeeded, in that the agreement 
with Sun was signed shortly after that and the IETF took over the NFS 
specification.

d/


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Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
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