Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Provisions (TLP))

Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> Thu, 27 August 2009 16:32 UTC

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From: Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv>
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Subject: Re: Appeal/Request for Review (was: Re: Proposed Revisions to the IETF Trust Legal Provisions (TLP))
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 12:32:23 -0400
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On Aug 25, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Margaret Wasserman wrote:

> Hi Marshall and Bob,
>
> Could you please let us know the current status of this appeal?
>
> In the plenary in Stockholm, I understood you to say that you _do_  
> consider the decisions of the IAOC and the Trust to be subject to  
> the appeals procedure, which I think is a good decision.  However,  
> it has been about 6 weeks since this appeal was sent, and I do not  
> see a location on the IAOC/Trust web pages where the appeal text is  
> posted, nor have I seen any response.

A response is under consideration, and I have instructed the IAD and  
the Secretariat to prepare a place to put it, and the original appeal.

Regards
Marshall


>
> I think that there are several very valid points in John's appeal,  
> and I largely agree with it.  I note that the IAOC has already begun  
> the process of bringing the minutes up to date, which I consider to  
> be an important step.  Could you help me to understand how you are  
> reacting or responding to other portions of this appeal?
>
> Thanks,
> Margaret
>
>
> On Jul 18, 2009, at 3:38 PM, John C Klensin wrote:
>> --On Saturday, July 18, 2009 12:55 -0400 Marshall Eubanks
>> <tme@americafree.tv> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello;
>>>
>>> We (the Trustees) have received feedback on the proposed
>>> changes to the Trust Legal Provisions (TLP) and have agreed to
>>> take the following actions. Since the original call went out
>>> on the 23rd of June, the comment period is extended to the
>>> 23rd of July.
>>> ...
>>
>> Marshall,
>>
>> While I believe these changes are all improvements, I also
>> recall several additional sets of comments on the IETF mailing
>> list, including those that addressed the issues of:
>>
> [...]
>
>> Consequently, by this message to you and copy of this note to
>> the IAOC Chair, and under the provisions of Section 3.5 of RFC
>> 4071, I formally request that the Trustees review their actions,
>> that the IAOC review the actions of the Trustees as part of the
>> IASA process, and that the following actions be taken:
>
> [...]
>
>>
>