Re: IETF note well relating to pictures?

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Tue, 26 July 2016 01:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF note well relating to pictures?
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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On 26/07/2016 05:11, Martin Rex wrote:
> Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>
>> "A participant in any IETF activity acknowledges that written,
>> audio and video records of meetings may be made and may be
>> available to the public."
>>
>> I've always assumed that "video" includes still photographs.
> 
> Since this IETF happened in Germany, the local applicable on personality
> right apply, and Note Well can not limit these personality rights.

Which is why the Note Well says "may be available to the public"
rather than "will be available to the public." The Note Well is intended
to be more portable than any national law.

   Brian