Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee members
Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 17 November 2016 01:16 UTC
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From: Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:16:18 +0900
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Subject: Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee members
To: Scott O Bradner <sob@sobco.com>
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Speaking as an individual ... On Nov 17, 2016 04:39, "Scott O. Bradner" <sob@sobco.com> wrote: > > there was also a public call for volunteers (which is how we got the names) > > Scott > > > On Nov 16, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Brian E Carpenter < brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Jordi, > > > > It's very common for committees to appoint sub-committees, within their > > range of responsibilities, and for sub-committees to coopt experts. > > > > I am not in the least shocked by this; in fact given the expansion of > > the IASA's workload over the last 10 years it seems entirely normal > > to me. I don't think anything has been hidden, and of course the IAOC > > as a whole remains responsible for the work of IASA subcommittees, > > according to section 3.2 of RFC4071. Specifically "The IAOC's mission > > is not to be engaged in the day-to-day administrative work of the IASA, > > but rather to provide appropriate direction, oversight, and approval." We had a vaguely similar discussion when the IAB started broadening the group of people who help the IAB carry out its chartered responsibilities by setting up IAB programs in 2010. It seems to me that as long as the group communicates with the broader community, and as long as the broader community knows what is happening and how to appeal problems, and as long as the broader community knows who to recall if things are REALLY off the rails, the way this is done is probably ok. IMO, of course. Spencer > > Regards > > Brian > > > > On 16/11/2016 23:38, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > >> All the IETF positions have rules to be selected, nomcom, etc., and there is a great transparency on the process. > >> > >> However today we discovered that new members have been selected for IAOC committees. > >> > >> What have been the rules/process for that? > >> > >> One of the questions that have been discussed several times is the lack of transparency from the IAOC, and clearly here we have a new demonstration of that. > >> > >> I hope there is a clear statement from IAOC explaining the process. > >> > >> If that not happens, what is the process to appeal that decision, so I can follow it? > >> > >> We as a community, in my opinion, can’t keep going with this lack of transparency. > >> > >> Regards, > >> Jordi > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ********************************************** > >> IPv4 is over > >> Are you ready for the new Internet ? > >> http://www.consulintel.es > >> The IPv6 Company > >> > >> This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the use of the individual(s) named above. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, including attached files, is prohibited. > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >
- question to the IAOC: new committee members JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: question to the IAOC: new committee members Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… Lou Berger
- Re: question to the IAOC: new committee members JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… Dave Crocker
- Re: question to the IAOC: new committee members Michael Richardson
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… Leslie Daigle
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee me… Bob Hinden