Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee members

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Wed, 16 November 2016 20:55 UTC

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Subject: Re: [IAOC] question to the IAOC: new committee members
To: "Scott O. Bradner" <sob@sobco.com>, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>, jordi.palet@consulintel.es
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From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
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For reference:

https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce/current/msg15684.html

Which also points to https://iaoc.ietf.org/committees.html

In looking at both,  the only thing not completely spelled out is
something like:
    - ... Candidates are appointed based on the information they
provide, and input received from the existing committee membership and
chairs.  Appointment is finalized once the candidate confirm their
willingness to serve and execute any required non-disclosure. Updated
(and current) committee membership is then published to the community.

Lou

On 11/17/2016 4:38 AM, Scott O. Bradner wrote:
> there was also a public call for volunteers (which is how we got the names)
>
> Scott
>
>> On Nov 16, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Jordi,
>>
>> It's very common for committees to appoint sub-committees, within their
>> range of responsibilities, and for sub-committees to coopt experts.
>>
>> I am not in the least shocked by this; in fact given the expansion of
>> the IASA's workload over the last 10 years it seems entirely normal
>> to me. I don't think anything has been hidden, and of course the IAOC
>> as a whole remains responsible for the work of IASA subcommittees,
>> according to section 3.2 of RFC4071. Specifically "The IAOC's mission
>> is not to be engaged in the day-to-day administrative work of the IASA,
>> but rather to provide appropriate direction, oversight, and approval."
>>
>> Regards
>>   Brian
>>
>> On 16/11/2016 23:38, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>>> All the IETF positions have rules to be selected, nomcom, etc., and there is a great transparency on the process.
>>>
>>> However today we discovered that new members have been selected for IAOC committees.
>>>
>>> What have been the rules/process for that?
>>>
>>> One of the questions that have been discussed several times is the lack of transparency from the IAOC, and clearly here we have a new demonstration of that.
>>>
>>> I hope there is a clear statement from IAOC explaining the process.
>>>
>>> If that not happens, what is the process to appeal that decision, so I can follow it?
>>>
>>> We as a community, in my opinion, can’t keep going with this lack of transparency.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jordi
>>>
>>>
>>>
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