Re: draft-manning-dnssvr-criteria-01.txt
Steve Goldstein <sgoldste@nsf.gov> Sun, 05 May 1996 16:09 UTC
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From: Steve Goldstein <sgoldste@nsf.gov>
Subject: Re: draft-manning-dnssvr-criteria-01.txt
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At 11:24 AM 5/5/96, John C Klensin wrote: >... Now the question is: does she try >to run TCP/IP or does she fall back on UUCP and/or Fidonet. I >think we can all agree that we'd prefer that TCP/IP be her >choice. At least I hope we can. John isn't just beating his chops here: this is REAL. Lots of places are just emerging from Fido/UUCP limitations, and others want to. We ought not raise the bar too much, lest we exclude them from participating. > >Now IETF ... comes along and says "it really isn't >acceptable to run a TLD without at least two or three high >performance workstations, NTP synchronization, and a 7x24 >operations staff with backup for all positions in the event of >sickness or vacations". That message translates rather exactly >and immediately into "don't bother running TCP/IP,... Run >something where people won't be trying to make these sorts of >rules and where they are used to semi-attended machines and >operations". > >I don't like that answer very much. Do you? I surely don't like it, either. John, you are "bang-on!" > >...There are >institutions in many of these countries who believe that small, >independent, Internet operations are a threat to their present >or future plans and would love to have an "IETF RFC" in their >hands to buttress their case that no one should be permitted to >put an Internet network in until the Ministry of Grasping and >Control (or its privatized equivalent) gets around to doing so >(on its terms, of course). > >That, IMO, is another not-very-good outcome. Again, John, you are right on-target. To all this, I would add a slight re-phrasing of the Internet maxim: "Be generous in what you accept, and understanding in what you send." --Steve G. ____________________________________________ Steve Goldstein, National Science Foundation +1(703)306-1949 Ext. 1119 "Let's not procrastinate until next week!"
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