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Re: Last Call: 'Linklocal Multicast Name Resolution (LLMNR)' to Proposed Standard

"Marshall Eubanks" <tme@multicasttech.com> Fri, 26 August 2005 15:05 UTC

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Subject: Re: Last Call: 'Linklocal Multicast Name Resolution (LLMNR)' to Proposed Standard
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On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 06:54:57 -0700
 Bill Manning <bmanning@karoshi.com> wrote:
> there is a fairly extensive history of multicast DNS...
> in 1998/1999, along w/ this draft:
> 
<snip>
> ... so multicast DNS has been around, with various implementations over 
> the years.
> the Apple mDNS spec is not an IETF work product, in part because the 
> IETF rejected
> it.  Same w/ the DARPA mDNS work I did six years ago.  I believe that 
> Bernard and
> his team are where they are because they had the patience and money to 
> wait out a
> multi year IETF standardization effort.   I ran out of money, Apple 
> wanted to ship solutions.
> (i think)...   the Apple specs are available as are the mDNS specs.  
> neither is proprietary.
> 
> that said, i think it is reasonable for the IETF to provide its 
> imprinture on LLMNR as an IETF
> standards track activitiy for naming on a link-local environment.  The 
> work has not violated the
> processes, has met all the IETF criteria and should proceed. Pretty 
> much a clear case of a protocol
> designed by committee.  And its not like anyone will use it of course.
> Even Microsoft appears to have abandon it.
> 
> --bill
> 
> 

I am perhaps just being slow and dim-witted after minor surgery, but why
should a protocol that no-one will use be standards track ?

This discussion is beginning to remind me of the scientific standards processes involving the Soviet
bloc that I was involved with during the Cold War. That is not a good sign...

Regards
Marshall Eubanks

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