Re: "Management team"

Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net> Tue, 21 April 2020 23:02 UTC

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From: Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net>
To: Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org>
Cc: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com>, ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: "Management team"
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 16:48:26 -0500
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On 21 Apr 2020, at 16:16, Jay Daley wrote:

> RFC 3710, Section 1.1 sets out role of the IESG as follows:

Fair warning about RFC 3710. See section 1.2:

    This document is published as an Informational RFC, detailing the
    current operations of the IESG.  It does not claim to represent
    consensus of the IETF that this is the right set of instructions to
    the IESG.

The role of the IESG, except for it's role in the standards process (see 
RFC 2026) is highly under-specified, for better or worse. RFC 2028, 
section 3.5 also makes for amusing reading, and if you really want to go 
spelunking, a look at RFC 1602, section 1.2, and RFC 1310, section 1.2, 
are also fun.

Welcome to the amusing part of this crusty old organization. ;-)

pr
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