Re: Session attendance reconciliation (was "Management team")

[George Michaelson <[e-mail]>]

There you go. My memory is completely the reverse. Blue sheets were
for counts for room sizing only, and had no requirement for a real
identity and were (for privacy reasons) not retained about individuals
or used to do things which related to them as individuals.

And no.. I haven't gone into the mail stacks to prove that: I'm saying
what I thought had been said. Not unusual that its the inverse of what
was actually said.

_G

On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 9:12 AM Brian E Carpenter
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>
> On 23-Apr-20 10:35, George Michaelson wrote:
> > I thought some things were said about blue sheets which went to "we
> > will never do that, its only for volume and not PII"
> >
> > but memory may be wrong, and .. we're not about "obeying the laws of
> > physics" here. But.. if we did say that, don't we need to "un-say" it?
>
> I hope we never said it. The blue sheets are proof of presence for
> the purposes of our IPR disclosure rules. A list of attendees
> is required by BCP25.
>
> As the Note Well says,
>
> * As a participant in or attendee to any IETF activity you acknowledge that written, audio, video, and photographic records of meetings may be made public.
> * Personal information that you provide to IETF will be handled in accordance with the IETF Privacy Statement.
>
>    Brian
>
> >
> > Blue Sheets are not purely informational by count now: You may be
> > identified by adding your data to a blue sheet and it may be
> > reconciled against other records in ways which are PII, and hence
> > invoke GDPR and CCPA
> >
> > -G
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:30 AM Jay Daley <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 23/04/2020, at 9:09 AM, John C Klensin <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>
> >> This suggests something else that may be relevant.  If there is
> >> _any_ chance that we might want to use session attendance
> >> information for IETF 107 for anything at all, including but
> >> definitely not limited to Nomcom eligibility in the future (not
> >> this year's NomCom), it would probably be wise to either merge
> >> to information from the Etherpad with Jabber logins and/or to
> >> explicit ask people who were unable (or sufficiently
> >> inconvenienced by technology) to record their presence on the
> >> Etherpad to identify themselves to the Secretariat in some
> >> appropriate way (I hope not on this mailing list).
> >>
> >> Jay, is that feasible?
> >>
> >>
> >> For IETF 107 the secretariat reconciled the list of Webex participants with the bluesheets to create a single list on a per session basis.  Inferring a participant’s name from a jabber ID is too hard.
> >>
> >> Jay
> >>
> >>
> >>    thanks,
> >>   john
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jay Daley
> >> IETF Executive Director
> >> [e-mail]
> >>
> >
> >
>