Re: IETF Chair
Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> Tue, 13 October 2020 19:03 UTC
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From: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 15:02:40 -0400
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Subject: Re: IETF Chair
To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
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On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 2:57 PM Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com> wrote: > > >> Inclusion does not relieve you of the burden of convincing others that your proposals serve a unique, un-met need, are technically feasible, and are worthy of attention relative to all the other work going on at the IETF so as to build a sufficient core to move that work forward. > > I didn't mean that all members do the opposite, my proposals are clear since the beginning, but no official action has been taken which is out of my hand, I can go out easily and say this idea is bad without a technical proof, but that will not make my ideas count. You may wish to read this if you haven't: https://www.ietf.org/about/participate/tao/ I mention it because your statement seems to imply the IETF is a top-down organization. It is not. "Official action" is taken in response to work being proposed by participants. There is very little agenda driven from the leadership down (and in fact there has been much resistance to such attempts over the IETF's long history). Of particular note is section 5 on BoFs, or "birds of a feather" meetings. The bottom line is that you get the IETF to do work by first doing it yourself and then convincing others to go along with it. Kyle
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