Re: IETF Chair

Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> Wed, 14 October 2020 21:00 UTC

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On 10/14/20 12:16 PM, Barry Leiba wrote:
>> But 90% of the efforts of the academy and 99% of those of commerce are focused on
>> the Blockchain, an integrity technology.
> It's worse than that, because not only is most of the effort placed on
> blockchain technology, blockchain technology is also being pushed as
> the answer to *everything*.  Blockchain technology has a place, but it
> doesn't make sense everywhere, and when one says, "Wait, let's take a
> step back and look at what we really *need* blockchains for, and where
> we don't," then one seems a heretic... or at best, quaintly naïve.

What place might that be? I really can't think of any. Maybe you can use 
it for buying and selling tulips.

Mike