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Re: IETF Chair

Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> Wed, 11 November 2020 17:35 UTC

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2020 12:25:35 -0500
From: Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com>
To: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
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> On 10/13/2020 3:04 PM Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com> wrote:
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> Hi Kyle, 
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> >Indeed, one of the critical functions of the IETF (and, really, any
> >SDO) is to discriminate: between good and bad ideas, productive and
> >unproductive uses of time, between work that advances our shared
> >values and work that opposes it. You will not get much support for
> >rubber stamping anyone's proposals regardless of merit.
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> Isn't there usually a distinction between the standard and the implementation? For example, if a 2x4 is a standard for building stuff, should the 2x4 standard body care if you use it to build a villa or a dog house? Or maybe a better question is, shouldn't standards be made in a way that allows anyone to implement? And if nobody is implementing something, can it still be considered a standard? 
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> Tim 
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