RE: IETF Chair

Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com> Tue, 13 October 2020 19:13 UTC

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From: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
To: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>
CC: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, "ietf@ietf.org" <ietf@ietf.org>, Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com>
Subject: RE: IETF Chair
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>> Or maybe a better question is, shouldn't standards be made in a way that allows anyone to implement?  And if nobody is implementing something, can it still be considered a standard?

I agree with what you said if it is not a question.

Khaled Omar

From: Timothy Mcsweeney <tim@dropnumber.com>
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To: Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org>; Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@outlook.com>
Cc: Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>; ietf@ietf.org
Subject: Re: IETF Chair

Hi Kyle,

>Indeed, one of the critical functions of the IETF (and, really, any
>SDO) is to discriminate: between good and bad ideas, productive and
>unproductive uses of time, between work that advances our shared
>values and work that opposes it. You will not get much support for
>rubber stamping anyone's proposals regardless of merit.

Isn't there usually a distinction between the standard and the implementation?  For example, if a 2x4 is a standard for building stuff, should the 2x4 standard body care if you use it to build a villa or a dog house?  Or maybe a better question is, shouldn't standards be made in a way that allows anyone to implement?  And if nobody is implementing something, can it still be considered a standard?

Tim