Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-00.txt

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Mon, 05 July 2021 20:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-00.txt
To: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>, Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>, 6man <ipv6@ietf.org>
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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Eric,

I think that we believed we were making it more implementable, and there
was certainly cross-checking within the IETF. And there will be this time
(with ART, not Transport, however).

What we missed last time was any direct interaction with WHATWG. I'm not
even sure that WHATWG existed then.

We're listening to the comments about Ted's point, of course.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 06-Jul-21 02:44, Eric Vyncke (evyncke) wrote:
> <without any hat>
> 
> I agree with Nick:
> 
> 1/ the paragraph identified by Ted can only bring confusion (e.g., when 
comparing two URI for the same address), so, better remove this kludge from the I-D [1]
> 2/ getting feedback from transport area is probably required for the URI syntax
> 
> In addition and with my AD hat, I am slightly annoyed that the lack of willingness to implement was not detected during the IETF Last Call in 2012.
> 
> Regards
> 
> -éric
> 
> [1] and this will be a real value for the bis document else I do not think that the -bis is really useful
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ipv6 <ipv6-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org>
> Date: Monday, 5 July 2021 at 12:31
> To: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
> Cc: 6man <ipv6@ietf.org>rg>, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-6man-rfc6874bis-00.txt
> 
>     Ted Hardie wrote on 05/07/2021 09:06:
>     > I think the proposal is much cleaner without this, and I encourage you 
>     > to reconsider including it.
> 
>     yip, agreed. This looks like it may be troublesome to implement, with 
>     marginal benefit.
> 
>     Otherwise the ID update is useful and it would be good to get input 
from 
>     the URI + browser people to see whether they think that it's workable.
> 
>     Nick
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