Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality
Torsten Lodderstedt <torsten@lodderstedt.net> Sun, 10 February 2013 18:43 UTC
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FIRST POLL: YES SECOND POLL: YES THIRD POLL: no opinion Am 04.02.2013 15:48, schrieb Karen O'Donoghue: > Folks, > > I am wrestling with how to help drive consensus on the topic of > criticality of headers. For background, please review the current > specification text, the minutes to the Atlanta meeting (IETF85), and > the mailing list (especially the discussion in December with (Subj: > Whether implementations must understand all JOSE header fields)). We > need to come to closure on this issue in order to progress the > specifications. > > As a tool to gather further information on determining a way forward, > the following polls have been created. Please respond before 11 > February 2013. > > Thanks, > Karen > > ******************* > FIRST POLL: Should all header fields be critical for implementations > to understand? > > YES – All header fields must continue to be understood by > implementations or the input must be rejected. > > NO – A means of listing that specific header fields may be safely > ignored should be defined. > > ******************** > SECOND POLL: Should the result of the first poll be "YES", should text > like the following be added? “Implementation Note: The requirement to > understand all header fields is a requirement on the system as a whole > – not on any particular level of library software. For instance, a > JOSE library could process the headers that it understands and then > leave the processing of the rest of them up to the application. For > those headers that the JOSE library didn’t understand, the > responsibility for fulfilling the ‘MUST understand’ requirement for > the remaining headers would then fall to the application.” > > YES – Add the text clarifying that the “MUST understand” requirement > is a requirement on the system as a whole – not specifically on JOSE > libraries. > > NO – Don’t add the clarifying text. > > ************************ > THIRD POLL: Should the result of the first poll be "NO", which syntax > would you prefer for designating the header fields that may be ignored > if not understood? > > A – Define a header field that explicitly lists the fields that may be > safely ignored if not understood. > > B – Introduce a second header, where implementations must understand > all fields in the first but they may ignore not-understood fields in > the second. > > C - Other??? (Please specify in detail.) > _______________________________________________ > jose mailing list > jose@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/jose
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Edmund Jay
- [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Karen O'Donoghue
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Anthony Nadalin
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality John Bradley
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Matt Miller (mamille2)
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Mike Jones
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Dick Hardt
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Breno de Medeiros
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Breno de Medeiros
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality George Fletcher
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Dick Hardt
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality sebastien.brault
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Mike Jones
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Brian Campbell
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Nat Sakimura
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Richard Barnes
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Eric Rescorla
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Peter Yee
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Axel.Nennker
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality hideki nara
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Ryo Ito
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Roland Hedberg
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Mike Jones
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality charles.marais@orange.com
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Casper Biering
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Manger, James H
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Stephen Kent
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Dirkjan Ochtman
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Mike Jones
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Richard Barnes
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Mike Jones
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality nov matake
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Andreas Åkre Solberg
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Prateek Mishra
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Richard Barnes
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Salvatore D'Agostino
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Chuck Mortimore
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Torsten Lodderstedt
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Russ Housley
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Vladimir Dzhuvinov / NimbusDS
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality Stephen Kent
- Re: [jose] POLL(s): header criticality HAYASHI, Tatsuya