Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group documents

["Ratliff, Stanley" <[e-mail]>]

Lou, 

Thanks for reminding me on the potential IPR issues. Just to make sure that base is completely covered, can I please hear from the other co-authors on the extensions as to any IPR claims that might exist? 

Regards,
Stan


> -----Original Message-----
> From: manet [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Lou Berger
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2016 1:17 PM
> To: Rick Taylor <[e-mail]>;
> [e-mail]; [e-mail]; [e-mail]
> Subject: Re: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group documents
> 
> I support adoption (no surprise, I'm a contributor to all).
> 
> I'm fine with adopting then doing the changes or doing the restructuring
> (queue parameters in own doc, merge credit extensions) then adopting - is
> the chair's call.
> 
> Lou
> 
> PS I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to these documents.
> 
> 
> On 11/28/2016 12:29 PM, Rick Taylor wrote:
> > Stan, All,
> >
> > I seem to remember there was some discussion over whether the
> > documents should be accepted as WG documents in their current form, or
> > the contained concepts reformulated into different documents for the
> WG.
> >  Where/how that happens is the chairs/authors call.
> >
> > There was discussion in Seoul about:
> >
> > A) Producing a base document to define 'sub-TLVs' in DLEP for the use
> > by extensions. (Used by #2 and #4)
> >
> > B) Writing a draft describing the use of Flows in DLEP, whether
> > DiffServ or otherwise differentiated, in a general sense, referring to
> > the sub-TLVs document.
> >
> > C) Perhaps merging some of the good ideas from the #5 and the existing
> > credit-windowing extension into a single draft, addressing perceived
> > issues in both.
> >
> > D) Extending #1 to cover all the relevant metrics in core DLEP.
> >
> > I have already offered to collaborate on A and B.  So I vote for #1,
> > #2, #3 to be accepted, and #5 merged.
> >
> > Contentious maybe...
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 2016-11-28 at 10:44 -0500, Stan Ratliff wrote:
> >> David,
> >>
> >> Oops. I claim Monday morning fogginess after the long holiday
> >> weekend, and being insufficiently caffeinated, as my excuse! ;-)
> >>
> >> WG,
> >> My apologies for the duplication. There are but 4 extensions, but the
> >> question to the WG is the same: To adopt, or not to adopt?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Stan
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:33 AM, Wiggins, David - 0665 - MITLL <Davi
> >> [e-mail]> wrote:
> >>> Hi Stan,
> >>>
> >>> I think #1 and #4 are the same thing, aren't they?
> >>>
> >>> David
> >>>
> >>> From: manet <[e-mail]> on behalf of Stan Ratliff <rat
> >>> [e-mail]>
> >>> Date: Monday, November 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM
> >>> To: MANET IETF <[e-mail]>
> >>> Subject: [manet] Call for acceptance as Working Group documents
> >>>
> >>> Hello working group participants,
> >>>
> >>> One of the items identified during the WG meeting in Seoul was to
> >>> formally request, via the list, Working Group adoption of 5
> >>> extension drafts related to DLEP. This email is that formal request.
> >>>
> >>> The drafts are:
> >>> 1.
> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_
> >>> html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dlatency-
> 2Dexten&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvi
> >>> dvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa-
> Wbxna8&m=6d
> >>> wQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J-BfvCBGzn4k8jyFEI&s=ANa8fzRPRpn1KD-
> IB6msobnd
> >>> _t8KIKpXDCbWK6zIFtY&e=
> >>> sion-00.html
> >>> 2.
> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_
> >>> html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dpause-
> 2Dextensi&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvi
> >>> dvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa-
> Wbxna8&m=6d
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> >>> on-00
> >>> 3.
> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_
> >>> html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dmulti-2Dhop-
> 2Dext&d=DgICAg&c=LlU
> >>> vidvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa-
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> >>> tIQGL6o0uEXispDAg400g&e=
> >>> ension-00
> >>> 4.
> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_
> >>> html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dlatency-
> 2Dexten&d=DgICAg&c=LlUvi
> >>> dvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa-
> Wbxna8&m=6d
> >>> wQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J-BfvCBGzn4k8jyFEI&s=ANa8fzRPRpn1KD-
> IB6msobnd
> >>> _t8KIKpXDCbWK6zIFtY&e=
> >>> sion-00
> >>> 5.
> >>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__tools.ietf.org_
> >>> html_draft-2Dcheng-2Dmanet-2Ddlep-2Dda-2Dcredit-
> 2Dext&d=DgICAg&c=LlU
> >>> vidvlhStGUSxQl0giOA&r=QzgCKlK-eUsbLW5r8KZAL9L_yqNON1dbKtMa-
> Wbxna8&m=
> >>> 6dwQTMiMIWZZcxS2FW_XBJky-J-
> BfvCBGzn4k8jyFEI&s=Pfm1aX9PLkAMWkC1fpHoMH
> >>> mtldAPycgMVePRoYWBGNI&e=
> >>> ension-00
> >>>
> >>> I have put all 5 extensions on this email for expediency only;
> >>> please do not assume that they must be adopted as a group. The
> >>> chairs would greatly appreciate thoughts from the WG, both positive
> >>> and negative, by December 12.
> >>>
> >>> For purposes of determining WG consensus, a lack of a response will
> >>> be seen as indicating support for adopting the draft (e.g. silence
> >>> == acceptance).
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Stan
> >>>
> >>>
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