Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE Weekly Summary: Assumptions

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Mon, 13 May 2013 18:46 UTC

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Subject: Re: [MMUSIC] BUNDLE Weekly Summary: Assumptions
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On 5/13/13 2:26 PM, Christer Holmberg wrote:

>>> Q4:
>>>
>>> We need to keep in mind that there is always a chance that the "top-most" m- line within a bundle group is a port zero one.
>>
>> What is the question?
>
> Well, there are basically two "warm-up" questions:
>
> Q4_1: When the first offer, with DIFFERENT port numbers is sent, and the receiver accepts bundle, is the receiver expected to be able to send media/data according to that?

I hope so.

> Q4_2: IF Q4_1 THEN which m- line does the receiver use to send media/data (when the second offer comes, with identical port numbers, it is no longer an issue).

Surely the bundle draft must specify this.

My first thought is that the address/port of the *first* m-line in the 
bundle with a non-zero port will be used for the entire bundle.

(This means that when you initially offer a bundle with a bunch of 
separate ports, you not only must be prepared to use each of those for 
an unbundled m-line, you must be prepared to use any of them for the 
complete bundle.)

	Thanks,
	Paul