Re: [Mtgvenue] New Version Notification for draft-daley-gendispatch-venue-requirements-02.txt

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Sat, 02 March 2024 14:28 UTC

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Date: Sat, 02 Mar 2024 06:27:48 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] New Version Notification for draft-daley-gendispatch-venue-requirements-02.txt
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On Fri, Mar 1, 2024 at 9:58 PM Benson Muite <benson_muite@emailplus.org>
wrote:

>
> >
> > I think this is a good illustration of why it's difficult to come up
> > with a complete
> > set of objective criteria about the suitability of a specific venue.
> > Rather, I think
> > the right way to proceed is by having a smaller set of screening criteria
> > (as the current document does) and then asking whether a proposed new
> > venue is problematic for a large enough [0] fraction of attendees, for
> > whatever
> > reason, without interrogating the validity of those reasons.
> >
> This seems a reasonable way to give a meeting exploratory status.


I'm not sure what you mean ehre.

I don't think we should have even exploratory meetings in locations
that are significantly more problematic for current attendees.



> New
> venues may also lead to greater engagement, for example Hyderabad or
> Shenzhen would likely be successful new meeting venues for growing the
> number of active participants.
>

My understanding of the data is that previous exploratory meetings in areas
where there was believed to be low engagement did not in fact meaningfully
grow the number of new participants beyond that one meeting..
Do you have evidence to the contrary?




> > With that said, I agree with John that time zone is not a good
> replacement
> > for our existing geographic zone system. I could imagine a new criterion
> > based on travel time, but I don't think time zone is a good choice for
> the
> > reasons John indicated.
>
> Travel time may be difficult, other than being close to a major airport.
>  The aim of using time zones to split the globe is to have a more
> precise and equitable criteria for distribution of meetings than North
> America, Europe and Asia.
>

I understand that that's your view, but it's not clear to me that time zones
are in fact more equitable.

-Ekr

>
> > -Ekr
> >
> > [0] Where "large enough" is defined as "significantly more than for the
> > existing
> > venues"
> >
>
>