Re: [Mtgvenue] New Version Notification for draft-daley-gendispatch-venue-requirements-02.txt

John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> Fri, 15 March 2024 19:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] New Version Notification for draft-daley-gendispatch-venue-requirements-02.txt
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Not to be unduly rude, but simply repeating the same ill-considered ideas 
and unsupported assertions over and over doesn't make them any better or 
any more persuasive.

R's,
John

On Fri, 15 Mar 2024, Benson Muite wrote:

> On 04/03/2024 14.58, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
>>> Il 03/03/2024 11:31 CET John R Levine <johnl@taugh.com> ha scritto:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 3 Mar 2024, Benson Muite wrote:
>>>>> I'm not sure what you mean ehre.
>>>> It would be good to separate the rotation policy from determining
>>>> whether a meeting is exploratory.
>>>
>>> You seem to be saying this as though it's obvious.  It's not obvious and I
>>> expect I'm not the only person who thinks it's just wrong.
>>
>> +1 - "exploratory" should mean "going to a part of the world where we have (almost) never been, even if that introduces some uncertainties and creates additional problems for some regular participants or for organization". A new city in Europe or in North America is not "exploratory" in any way, unless what we want to explore is new restaurants and new attractions. A city in Latin America, Africa, or some parts of Asia would be.
>>
>> Also, the exploration is not meant to improve timezone rotation, as the 1-1-1 policy already caters well to that. We are rather talking about places which fall in one of the three timezone bands that we already use, but belong to different geographical areas.
>>
> Made a pull request to update the draft:
> https://github.com/JayDaley/draft-daley-gendispatch-venue-requirements/pull/1
> It at present does not include "introduces uncertainties", but
> classifies exploratory as a location that introduces travel hardships.
>
>

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